1 00:00:14,633 --> 00:00:18,611 Leonardo da Vinci was a self-taught renaissance man. 2 00:00:19,878 --> 00:00:22,393 As a scientist, artist and inventor 3 00:00:22,533 --> 00:00:26,544 da Vinci's genius led to an unprecedented body of work. 4 00:00:28,413 --> 00:00:30,967 The drawings he left behind remain as testaments 5 00:00:31,107 --> 00:00:34,045 to his innovation and originality. 6 00:00:34,945 --> 00:00:37,800 One of da Vinci's main inhibitions was the lack of materials 7 00:00:37,940 --> 00:00:41,556 he needed to transform his concepts into reality. 8 00:00:42,917 --> 00:00:47,929 Jacque Fresco is also a self-taught scientist, architect and inventor. 9 00:00:50,086 --> 00:00:53,814 For his entire life he has been deeply committed to investigation 10 00:00:53,954 --> 00:00:56,742 insight and innovation. 11 00:00:59,195 --> 00:01:01,375 A prolific creator and builder 12 00:01:01,515 --> 00:01:06,425 Jacque has been redesigning our entire culture for most of his life. 13 00:01:08,811 --> 00:01:11,587 While da Vinci needed advanced materials 14 00:01:11,727 --> 00:01:15,781 Fresco has lacked access to the social and political resources needed 15 00:01:15,921 --> 00:01:19,373 to realize his most far-reaching ideas. 16 00:01:30,860 --> 00:01:34,195 AUGUST, 1974 17 00:01:38,567 --> 00:01:42,447 My guest is an extraordinary Miamian, Dr. Jacque Fresco. 18 00:01:42,587 --> 00:01:44,916 I could go through all the things that Dr. Fresco has done. 19 00:01:45,056 --> 00:01:48,955 He's a social engineer, industrial engineer, designer, inventor 20 00:01:49,095 --> 00:01:51,413 was a consultant for Rotorcraft Helicopter 21 00:01:51,553 --> 00:01:53,741 director of Scientific Research Laboratories, Los Angeles 22 00:01:53,881 --> 00:01:55,982 designed and copyrighted various items 23 00:01:56,122 --> 00:01:59,165 ranging from drafting instruments to X-ray units 24 00:01:59,305 --> 00:02:01,551 has had works published in Architectural Records 25 00:02:01,691 --> 00:02:04,697 Popular Mechanics, Saturday Review and has been 26 00:02:04,837 --> 00:02:07,413 a technical and psychological consultant of the motion picture industry 27 00:02:07,553 --> 00:02:10,929 member of the air force design development unit at Wright Field 28 00:02:11,069 --> 00:02:14,451 developed the electrostatic anti-icing systems 29 00:02:14,591 --> 00:02:17,181 designed prefabricated aluminum houses. 30 00:02:17,321 --> 00:02:19,874 What does it say in your driver's license? 31 00:02:20,014 --> 00:02:23,058 What is the occupation? - Industrial Designer 32 00:02:23,198 --> 00:02:25,512 - Jacque, do you -social engineer - 33 00:02:25,652 --> 00:02:27,526 - Does it bug you that people 34 00:02:27,666 --> 00:02:29,895 when they talk about Jacque Fresco in Miami, say that 35 00:02:30,035 --> 00:02:33,707 he's someone who's too far ahead of this time? His thinking, is.... 36 00:02:33,847 --> 00:02:37,437 We're not ready for advanced kind of thinking. Not that type. 37 00:02:37,577 --> 00:02:41,275 Does it bug you? - I imagine every creative person in every field 38 00:02:41,415 --> 00:02:45,345 encounters that sort of problem. No, it doesn't. I can't afford it. 39 00:02:45,485 --> 00:02:48,485 There's too many things that are important. 40 00:04:39,438 --> 00:04:42,415 Jacque Fresco is a futurist. 41 00:04:42,928 --> 00:04:46,359 A futurist is someone for whom all thoughts and actions 42 00:04:46,499 --> 00:04:49,869 are based upon what tomorrow could be. 43 00:04:50,725 --> 00:04:54,930 He has been planning for the future since the 1920s. 44 00:04:55,070 --> 00:04:57,888 Not only is he a philosopher and theorist 45 00:04:58,028 --> 00:05:02,466 but an engineer, industrial designer and social planner. 46 00:05:07,138 --> 00:05:10,335 As a multi-disciplinarian, he has studied everything from theology 47 00:05:10,475 --> 00:05:15,075 to behaviorism and from biology to the material sciences. 48 00:05:17,195 --> 00:05:19,926 Jacque Fresco, doesn't want to just talk about 49 00:05:20,066 --> 00:05:23,443 what today will be like, tomorrow. 50 00:05:23,583 --> 00:05:28,632 He has a plan to build an entire new world from the ground up. 51 00:05:35,138 --> 00:05:37,756 (Gazecki) I'd like to go from 52 00:05:37,896 --> 00:05:41,991 the time you first started conceiving of drawings. 53 00:05:43,228 --> 00:05:46,802 - Started drawing? Well, that's very early. 54 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,562 Eight, nine... eight or nine years old. 55 00:05:50,702 --> 00:05:53,348 - About the future? - Yes. 56 00:05:53,668 --> 00:05:57,510 I was always interested in the future as far back as I can remember. 57 00:05:59,337 --> 00:06:02,058 There was a motion picture called Metropolis. 58 00:06:02,198 --> 00:06:04,423 It was different; it took my attention. 59 00:06:04,563 --> 00:06:08,150 It was the first out-of-the-box type movie. 60 00:06:13,107 --> 00:06:16,891 It depicted the future as a regimented system 61 00:06:17,253 --> 00:06:20,266 which was totally unacceptable 62 00:06:21,317 --> 00:06:24,850 but the architecture was interesting and the robotics 63 00:06:24,990 --> 00:06:27,847 in that film were interesting. 64 00:06:36,955 --> 00:06:39,526 I drew airplanes and cities of the future 65 00:06:39,666 --> 00:06:43,593 underwater cities, floating cities 66 00:06:43,733 --> 00:06:48,995 and skyscrapers with landing platforms on them. 67 00:06:49,302 --> 00:06:52,655 I drew my idea of what a post office ought to be. 68 00:06:52,795 --> 00:06:55,356 Since the airport was so far from the post office 69 00:06:55,496 --> 00:06:59,171 they had a truck deliver that, I figured, here's these long post offices 70 00:06:59,311 --> 00:07:04,056 but why couldn't we land on top, pick up the mail directly and fly onward? 71 00:07:04,196 --> 00:07:08,543 So, I would draw landing platforms on the rooftops of the buildings 72 00:07:08,683 --> 00:07:13,517 slightly angular, so the airplane didn't have trouble landing. 73 00:07:13,657 --> 00:07:17,501 It couldn't be as long, but It'd be slowed up by the incline 74 00:07:17,641 --> 00:07:21,331 but then on take off they would go in reverse. 75 00:07:21,471 --> 00:07:26,115 Then I tried ships, drawings of passenger/freighter ships 76 00:07:26,255 --> 00:07:28,369 then aircraft carriers. 77 00:07:28,509 --> 00:07:31,417 And I showed it to my principal 78 00:07:31,557 --> 00:07:34,806 and he said "Have you ever heard of Bucky Fuller?" 79 00:07:34,946 --> 00:07:38,205 I said "No." So, he said "Would you like to meet him?" 80 00:07:38,345 --> 00:07:40,555 I said "Yeah, sure. Is he... what is he?" 81 00:07:40,695 --> 00:07:42,778 He says "He's an inventor like you. 82 00:07:42,918 --> 00:07:45,765 He thinks up a lot of new things." 83 00:07:46,068 --> 00:07:50,045 But Mr. Fuller was one of the 20th century's most renown futurists. 84 00:07:50,195 --> 00:07:53,409 Known primarily as the inventor of the Geodesic dome 85 00:07:53,549 --> 00:07:57,920 Fuller was a proponent of using technology with a humanistic approach. 86 00:07:58,179 --> 00:08:00,006 (Fresco) And there was Bucky Fuller. 87 00:08:00,146 --> 00:08:04,032 He was seated there with his car called the Dymaxium. 88 00:08:04,172 --> 00:08:06,903 And I said "What does that mean?" And he says "It is the highest form 89 00:08:07,043 --> 00:08:10,372 that can be attained in shape". 90 00:08:10,512 --> 00:08:13,839 I talked to him about social things. I said 91 00:08:13,979 --> 00:08:17,727 "What about changing society to some other form 92 00:08:17,867 --> 00:08:23,330 whereby all people can benefit from the works of industry?" 93 00:08:23,470 --> 00:08:25,667 He said "What do you mean?" I said "Well 94 00:08:25,807 --> 00:08:28,580 "if instead of working people going out on strike 95 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,795 give them a piece of the action. 96 00:08:30,925 --> 00:08:34,241 And so if business improved they all got automatic pay. 97 00:08:34,381 --> 00:08:37,717 If it went down, they got less pay." 98 00:08:38,243 --> 00:08:40,755 So, he sat back and he said: 99 00:08:40,895 --> 00:08:43,783 "What are you, some kind of social planner? 100 00:08:43,923 --> 00:08:47,265 Is that what you want to be?" I said "I don't know what the name is 101 00:08:47,405 --> 00:08:52,131 but I think that would work. It would give people more incentive." 102 00:08:52,556 --> 00:08:55,769 He says "Let me tell you something. It's tough enough 103 00:08:55,909 --> 00:08:58,545 just getting a new automobile out there. 104 00:08:58,695 --> 00:09:01,306 If you're trying to change society..." 105 00:09:01,446 --> 00:09:05,410 This was years before he even lectured on things. 106 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:08,789 (Gazecki) Albert Einstein once said 107 00:09:08,929 --> 00:09:11,034 "The problems we have cannot be solved 108 00:09:11,174 --> 00:09:15,200 at the same level of thinking with which we created them." 109 00:09:15,578 --> 00:09:18,909 - Did you meet Einstein, Albert Einstein? - Yes. 110 00:09:19,049 --> 00:09:21,983 - Where did you get the idea to meet Albert Einstein? 111 00:09:22,123 --> 00:09:25,868 - I was outside a theater called Radio City 112 00:09:26,008 --> 00:09:30,615 and I saw a woman come out with gray hair sticking up. 113 00:09:30,755 --> 00:09:35,178 I said "It looks like Einstein's sister" to my friends! 114 00:09:35,318 --> 00:09:39,731 And then Einstein came out. And I think it was his sister. 115 00:09:40,866 --> 00:09:42,867 I was just kidding about that. 116 00:09:43,007 --> 00:09:47,890 And I walked over and I said "Is it possible to meet with you?" 117 00:09:48,295 --> 00:09:52,692 He said "Why?" I said "I have thousands of questions I want to ask." 118 00:09:52,832 --> 00:09:56,439 But, he says, uhm "I live in Princeton, New Jersey." 119 00:09:56,579 --> 00:09:58,810 - So tell me about the day you went and met him. 120 00:09:58,950 --> 00:10:03,695 - Well, I went to his home. And it was modest. 121 00:10:04,141 --> 00:10:08,120 I said that there seems to be harmony in nature. 122 00:10:08,260 --> 00:10:10,413 "How do you feel about that?" 123 00:10:10,553 --> 00:10:14,273 He says "Yes, the universe is lawful, but 124 00:10:14,413 --> 00:10:17,110 'harmony', I don't know what you mean by that." 125 00:10:17,250 --> 00:10:19,431 I said "Well when a rat eats insects 126 00:10:19,571 --> 00:10:23,133 it may be supporting the rat system but what about the insect system?" 127 00:10:23,273 --> 00:10:27,912 What he did is he used some water from the backyard swamp water 128 00:10:28,052 --> 00:10:30,955 and he put it under a microscope and he said "Look 129 00:10:31,095 --> 00:10:33,430 everything is fighting everything else. 130 00:10:33,570 --> 00:10:36,921 In the human body, everything is fighting everything else. 131 00:10:37,061 --> 00:10:40,201 In the ocean, big fish eat little fish". 132 00:10:40,341 --> 00:10:44,990 I didn't really have enough time to sit there with Einstein 133 00:10:45,130 --> 00:10:47,036 and go through all kinds of things 134 00:10:47,176 --> 00:10:50,655 because he didn't seem to be in that area. 135 00:10:50,795 --> 00:10:54,234 He did (imitating Einstein) "Are you interested in mathematics?" 136 00:10:54,374 --> 00:10:57,045 (still mocking) Mathematics... are you interested... 137 00:10:57,195 --> 00:11:00,316 "What boolean geometry means to you?" You know. 138 00:11:00,456 --> 00:11:02,795 I didn't wanted to get off into that 139 00:11:02,945 --> 00:11:05,238 because, to me, that would be a sidetrack. 140 00:11:05,378 --> 00:11:10,090 Mathematics is a tool, just like sociology and anthropology. 141 00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:14,043 These are all instruments to go into making up the future. 142 00:11:20,443 --> 00:11:25,321 (Gazecki) When the stock market crashed in 1929, Jacque was only 13 years old. 143 00:11:29,255 --> 00:11:32,235 Coming of age during in The Great Depression prompted many questions 144 00:11:32,375 --> 00:11:35,406 for the curious and inquisitive young man. 145 00:11:35,546 --> 00:11:37,942 Living in New York City, he found the squalor 146 00:11:38,082 --> 00:11:41,042 and suffering around him difficult to understand. 147 00:11:41,182 --> 00:11:43,632 The confusion, contradictions and struggles he saw 148 00:11:43,772 --> 00:11:47,084 left a significant impact on his character. 149 00:11:48,793 --> 00:11:52,353 (Fresco) Things were so bad that I had no way of looking at it; 150 00:11:52,493 --> 00:11:56,929 and I thought the rules of the game were somehow screwed up. 151 00:11:57,257 --> 00:12:01,067 I went to many different meetings: communist meetings 152 00:12:01,207 --> 00:12:03,715 socialist meetings, fascist meetings 153 00:12:03,855 --> 00:12:07,225 Mankind United, technocracy 154 00:12:07,365 --> 00:12:11,473 to see what the world was teaching, including Eastern philosophy. 155 00:12:11,613 --> 00:12:14,595 And I wanted to know what people thought, what they wanted 156 00:12:14,743 --> 00:12:18,310 why they gelled on one system. 157 00:12:18,450 --> 00:12:22,639 And that each time a society arrived at a system 158 00:12:22,779 --> 00:12:27,319 they tend to keep that system. They didn't even try to go beyond that 159 00:12:27,459 --> 00:12:32,515 but in technology, whenever we made anything, we try to surpass it. 160 00:12:32,655 --> 00:12:36,358 The history of civilization, to me then, was the history of change 161 00:12:36,498 --> 00:12:39,583 social change, human arrangements 162 00:12:39,723 --> 00:12:42,852 homes, boats, planes, trains; 163 00:12:42,992 --> 00:12:46,557 all of them were in the process of social evolution 164 00:12:46,697 --> 00:12:51,307 including our language, our outlook, our values, our behavior. 165 00:12:54,003 --> 00:12:56,364 (Gazecki) As the Depression wore on, Jacque left New York 166 00:12:56,504 --> 00:12:59,337 and started hitchhiking around the country. 167 00:12:59,477 --> 00:13:02,203 In his travels he met many interesting and different people 168 00:13:02,343 --> 00:13:05,087 most of whom were like himself searching for a way of life 169 00:13:05,227 --> 00:13:07,584 that was fair and equitable. 170 00:13:07,724 --> 00:13:09,952 Eventually, he ended up traveling to the warm waters 171 00:13:10,092 --> 00:13:12,944 and primitive islands of Tahiti. 172 00:13:13,941 --> 00:13:17,005 (Fresco) I wanted to go to the south seas because I liked the idea 173 00:13:17,145 --> 00:13:20,526 of the natives sharing things; I've read about that. 174 00:13:20,666 --> 00:13:24,291 Now, the chief, if he had six wives, and you were strange 175 00:13:24,431 --> 00:13:28,163 he said "Here's my best wife. Maybe she will please you?" 176 00:13:28,303 --> 00:13:31,328 They felt their wives gave them so much joy; 177 00:13:31,468 --> 00:13:34,295 perhaps they'd give a visitor some joy. 178 00:13:34,435 --> 00:13:38,287 Their thinking about it was different. And that upset... 179 00:13:38,427 --> 00:13:43,715 It caused me to ponder "gee, that's not the way I saw things. 180 00:13:43,855 --> 00:13:47,056 Was that the way I saw things, or was that the way I was indoctrinated?" 181 00:13:47,196 --> 00:13:49,288 That's when I began to ask those questions. 182 00:13:49,428 --> 00:13:52,764 How do you know that anything you like makes sense, Jacque? 183 00:13:52,904 --> 00:13:56,680 What about your own values? Think about them; maybe they are senseless. 184 00:13:57,484 --> 00:14:00,218 [Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941] 185 00:14:00,358 --> 00:14:03,850 (Gazecki) Concerned that Tahiti would be invaded, Jacque returned to the US 186 00:14:03,990 --> 00:14:06,903 and joined the army air corps. 187 00:14:07,043 --> 00:14:10,031 When the war was over thousands of factories stood idle. 188 00:14:10,171 --> 00:14:14,117 Their manufacturing capacity no longer needed for wartime production. 189 00:14:14,257 --> 00:14:18,805 Capitalizing on the tremendous capacity available for aluminum fabrication 190 00:14:18,945 --> 00:14:23,922 Jacque designed and built a house made entirely from aluminum extrusions. 191 00:14:24,062 --> 00:14:26,754 The result was an innovative and extremely efficient use 192 00:14:26,894 --> 00:14:29,278 of time and materials. 193 00:14:29,418 --> 00:14:32,115 (Fresco)The windows, for example, were put in and then 194 00:14:32,255 --> 00:14:36,195 extrusions snapped in and sit with a seal. 195 00:14:36,345 --> 00:14:39,199 And so it was very rapid. It took something like twelve minutes 196 00:14:39,339 --> 00:14:41,660 to put up all the windows. 197 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,855 Eight hours to put up the building. 198 00:14:43,995 --> 00:14:47,195 1948, it was unveiled at Warner Bros 199 00:14:47,350 --> 00:14:49,795 and there were lines all around the studio. 200 00:14:49,935 --> 00:14:53,196 Thousands of people had come to see it. And airplanes... 201 00:14:53,336 --> 00:14:55,795 smoke... written in through the sky. 202 00:14:55,944 --> 00:14:58,585 "Visit The Trend Home at Warner Bros. Studio." 203 00:14:58,735 --> 00:15:03,318 It was publicized in newspapers. I think the Architectural Record... 204 00:15:03,458 --> 00:15:07,743 as one of the first mass-produced type homes. 205 00:15:09,332 --> 00:15:12,703 (Gazecki) Jacque appreciated the challenges of innovative problem solving. 206 00:15:12,843 --> 00:15:16,460 As he honed his skills he became a competent inventor. 207 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:21,490 He always had a research lab and was constantly inventing new products. 208 00:15:21,801 --> 00:15:24,515 While much of his time was spent pursuing his own interests 209 00:15:24,655 --> 00:15:27,835 he was also hired by entrepreneurs to design and fabricate 210 00:15:27,975 --> 00:15:32,655 specific inventions, working in a very broad array of technologies. 211 00:15:33,195 --> 00:15:36,113 He invented everything from medical and dental devices 212 00:15:36,253 --> 00:15:39,208 to 3D motion picture projection systems. 213 00:15:39,348 --> 00:15:43,560 (Fresco) A guy named Jack Moss was a film producer at the time. 214 00:15:43,700 --> 00:15:48,452 I met him at Warner Bros. Studios. He came to see the Trend Home. 215 00:15:49,165 --> 00:15:54,420 And he was awed by everything fitting together so sensibly. 216 00:15:55,486 --> 00:15:58,424 And he said "How do you guys think of these things?" 217 00:15:58,564 --> 00:16:01,209 So, I began to describe how I thought about things 218 00:16:01,349 --> 00:16:05,350 then he found me interesting. And he said 219 00:16:05,490 --> 00:16:09,024 "Come on out to the house." And he had a big estate. 220 00:16:09,164 --> 00:16:13,854 And he said "Do you think you can make a movie projector 221 00:16:13,994 --> 00:16:18,271 that projects 3D images without glasses?" 222 00:16:18,411 --> 00:16:22,156 So I said, "Yes." He said, "How do you know you can do it? 223 00:16:22,296 --> 00:16:24,728 You've never done it." And I said "That's right." 224 00:16:24,868 --> 00:16:28,489 But if it's a physical phenomenon I think I can work it out." 225 00:16:28,629 --> 00:16:31,475 "How are you gonna' do it?" I said "I don't know yet." 226 00:16:31,615 --> 00:16:36,690 What I did is, I had many different applications 227 00:16:36,830 --> 00:16:39,112 which I'd rather not describe in detail. 228 00:16:39,252 --> 00:16:42,621 But I got 3D imaging different ways. 229 00:16:42,761 --> 00:16:47,993 And the simplest way was projecting the right and left eye image 230 00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:51,701 from behind the screen at the right eye and the left eye. 231 00:16:51,841 --> 00:16:56,172 If you moved over to the side you lost your image. 232 00:16:56,312 --> 00:17:00,824 And Jack wanted Technicolor to go the rest of the way. 233 00:17:00,964 --> 00:17:03,750 He got them to come out and look at it. 234 00:17:03,890 --> 00:17:06,168 "How do you do that? It's very interesting." 235 00:17:06,308 --> 00:17:09,674 I said "We're not at liberty to disclose that 236 00:17:09,814 --> 00:17:12,195 unless you back the next stage". 237 00:17:12,335 --> 00:17:16,009 So they said "Well, how do you maintain visual isolation?" 238 00:17:16,149 --> 00:17:18,755 I said "I still can't discuss that with you." 239 00:17:18,895 --> 00:17:21,787 They looked at it and it was super clear, no lines. 240 00:17:21,927 --> 00:17:24,497 They said "That's the best I've seen up to now, but 241 00:17:24,637 --> 00:17:28,980 it fades at thirty degrees." I said" -Yes, it does." 242 00:17:29,460 --> 00:17:33,628 "And, at a distance it fades, too, as you move back." 243 00:17:33,768 --> 00:17:36,559 They said "Can you do anything about that?" I said "Yes. 244 00:17:36,699 --> 00:17:40,457 That's why you're here to take it to the next stage." 245 00:17:40,597 --> 00:17:43,385 So, they said, "Look, Jacque, you get rid of the fade 246 00:17:43,535 --> 00:17:47,707 and you get rid of the distance problem. Then call us." 247 00:17:50,062 --> 00:17:53,936 That died... like the Trend Home died. 248 00:17:55,380 --> 00:17:58,858 Then I read in the books on inventions how Alexander Graham Bell 249 00:17:58,998 --> 00:18:01,826 had to make the telephone before they backed it. 250 00:18:01,966 --> 00:18:04,395 The Xerox machine had to be made, completely. 251 00:18:04,535 --> 00:18:07,884 Edison had to make the electric lamp. Nobody backed him 252 00:18:08,024 --> 00:18:11,271 on the way up...until after he was known. 253 00:18:11,411 --> 00:18:14,538 (Gazecki) What are these for? What were these all about? 254 00:18:14,678 --> 00:18:16,854 These are surgical instruments, aren't they? 255 00:18:16,994 --> 00:18:19,708 - Yes, various types, but those are only some of them. 256 00:18:19,848 --> 00:18:21,948 You know what a retractor is? - No 257 00:18:22,088 --> 00:18:24,996 - It holds the skin open while you're operating. 258 00:18:25,136 --> 00:18:28,017 These are various types of retractors. 259 00:18:29,814 --> 00:18:33,920 The purpose of that was to rotate 260 00:18:34,060 --> 00:18:38,729 the bone so it's in line before you put the prosthesis in. 261 00:18:38,869 --> 00:18:44,324 It rotates the femur, the upper region of the femur. 262 00:18:45,491 --> 00:18:48,660 Those are tweezers with holes in them... 263 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,875 If look at the holes in the front... to put the sutures through to guide you 264 00:18:53,015 --> 00:18:56,160 through the muscle. You put it over the muscle and the holes 265 00:18:56,300 --> 00:18:59,545 are right through the middle of the muscle. You didn't have to eyeball it. 266 00:18:59,685 --> 00:19:02,180 - So these are things that you designed...- Long time ago. 267 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,989 - Under contract? - Oh, yeah. - You contracted to design these things? 268 00:19:06,129 --> 00:19:08,285 - Yes. I did thousands of different things. 269 00:19:08,425 --> 00:19:11,958 But this doctor took the patents out in his name. 270 00:19:12,098 --> 00:19:14,731 But that's all right. I didn't know what was out there. 271 00:19:14,871 --> 00:19:17,185 I didn't know what I wanted to be. 272 00:19:17,325 --> 00:19:21,916 Since I looked at all things and tried to change all things. 273 00:19:22,056 --> 00:19:25,198 Wheelchairs, everything. Make them better... you know. 274 00:19:25,338 --> 00:19:27,915 I found it easy to invent. 275 00:19:28,055 --> 00:19:32,815 But, then, inventions cost money and I didn't have money for patents. 276 00:19:32,955 --> 00:19:36,775 I used to make thousands of different inventions 277 00:19:36,915 --> 00:19:40,648 and just filed them away, because I had no money. 278 00:19:40,788 --> 00:19:43,485 I used to spend my savings, whatever I earned 279 00:19:43,631 --> 00:19:46,182 on what equipment that I needed. 280 00:19:46,322 --> 00:19:49,405 And if I was working on an artificial leg 281 00:19:49,545 --> 00:19:52,592 and I was $200 behind, 282 00:19:52,732 --> 00:19:56,969 I would take my last $200 and work on that. 283 00:19:57,109 --> 00:19:59,635 I'd solve that problem, but then the rent would be due 284 00:19:59,775 --> 00:20:02,220 and the electric bills. I couldn't pay them. 285 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:06,855 The auctioneers would be sent in to auction off everything in my lab. 286 00:20:06,995 --> 00:20:10,182 I had to sit back...I couldn't adjust 287 00:20:10,322 --> 00:20:13,425 to say "Well, I got $25 for rent 288 00:20:13,565 --> 00:20:16,475 $200 for this, for a machine..." 289 00:20:16,615 --> 00:20:20,075 I couldn't do that, because I was very near the answers 290 00:20:20,215 --> 00:20:23,045 and the type of problems I worked on were outside 291 00:20:23,185 --> 00:20:26,833 of the frame of reference of most science. 292 00:20:26,973 --> 00:20:31,221 In the fluorescent tube you have high voltage moving along 293 00:20:31,361 --> 00:20:34,131 and you have a transformer that generates it 294 00:20:34,271 --> 00:20:37,226 and you put a phosphor material that glows. 295 00:20:37,366 --> 00:20:41,930 But the tube is round and the phosphor on that back side does nothing. 296 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:44,329 It's only the phosphor on the front side. 297 00:20:44,469 --> 00:20:48,479 I want to extrude the tube, so it's elliptical. 298 00:20:48,895 --> 00:20:52,578 You have more light surface in an elliptical tube. 299 00:20:52,718 --> 00:20:56,353 Then I wanted to mirror back, the back of the tube. 300 00:20:56,493 --> 00:20:59,641 Instead of putting a big reflector outside there 301 00:20:59,781 --> 00:21:02,901 put the mirror inside the tube. 302 00:21:03,041 --> 00:21:05,396 I didn't have the money to make that tube. 303 00:21:05,536 --> 00:21:08,226 Then I said "What a hell you are making a tube for?" 304 00:21:08,366 --> 00:21:12,642 Why don't you work on a flat sheet of glass that phosphors, that glows? 305 00:21:12,782 --> 00:21:15,550 Make glass that's electrically conductive. 306 00:21:15,690 --> 00:21:19,115 Well, how do you make a non-conductive electrically conductive? 307 00:21:19,255 --> 00:21:23,839 By putting metallic particles in the glass and phosphors. What would happen? 308 00:21:23,979 --> 00:21:27,655 The electric current would flow through the glass and animate the phosphors. 309 00:21:27,795 --> 00:21:30,097 You had a flat sheet. You don't want a lamp. 310 00:21:30,237 --> 00:21:33,767 A lamp is only giving light on one side. 311 00:21:33,907 --> 00:21:37,137 I wanted the whole surface to glow. 312 00:21:37,277 --> 00:21:39,441 (Gazecki) Over time, Jacque's ideas about the future 313 00:21:39,581 --> 00:21:42,611 became more well-organized and focused. 314 00:21:42,751 --> 00:21:46,456 Gradually, he began to combine his technological expertise 315 00:21:46,596 --> 00:21:49,206 with what he had learned about human behavior 316 00:21:49,346 --> 00:21:52,433 sociology and social structure. 317 00:21:52,573 --> 00:21:56,395 (Fresco) I spent so many years improving area by area, I said "Look, 318 00:21:56,535 --> 00:22:00,658 the whole society is aberrated the way we do things. 319 00:22:00,798 --> 00:22:03,473 Why not redesign society? 320 00:22:03,613 --> 00:22:06,446 It'd be easier than making all these thousands of products-- 321 00:22:06,586 --> 00:22:09,712 (Gazecki) You really decided to re-design the culture... 322 00:22:09,852 --> 00:22:12,035 -Because I couldn't get... 323 00:22:12,175 --> 00:22:16,275 patchwork didn't work. It wasn't sufficient. 324 00:22:16,415 --> 00:22:19,151 They thought I was a communist. 325 00:22:19,291 --> 00:22:22,555 After all, the guy wanted to redesign society. What else? 326 00:22:22,695 --> 00:22:25,464 "The Larry King Show" - August,1974 327 00:22:25,604 --> 00:22:29,271 (Larry King) What is a socio-cybernering? 328 00:22:30,069 --> 00:22:34,586 - Socio-cybernering is a new organization 329 00:22:34,726 --> 00:22:38,876 and it represents the application of the most sofisticated forms 330 00:22:39,016 --> 00:22:43,055 of science and technology toward problem solving 331 00:22:43,195 --> 00:22:45,964 so that we can reclaim the environment 332 00:22:46,104 --> 00:22:49,045 which we loused up over the years; 333 00:22:49,185 --> 00:22:53,936 and to build a way of life worthy of man, to humanize society 334 00:22:54,076 --> 00:22:58,345 to break away from the artificiality, the regimentation 335 00:22:58,485 --> 00:23:00,959 that dominates our society today. 336 00:23:01,099 --> 00:23:05,317 Our society seems torn apart and pulled in many directions. 337 00:23:05,457 --> 00:23:08,154 Socio-cyberneering is an approach 338 00:23:08,294 --> 00:23:13,195 at the restructuring of society in humanistic terms. 339 00:23:13,345 --> 00:23:15,465 - Humanistic terms, yes. 340 00:23:19,073 --> 00:23:21,255 (Gazecki) The mission of socio-cyberneering was to build 341 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,919 a residential research center, developing 342 00:23:24,059 --> 00:23:27,618 and demonstrating new technologies and innovative social concepts 343 00:23:27,758 --> 00:23:30,623 within a community setting. 344 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,225 On a barren scrap of land in central Florida 345 00:23:36,365 --> 00:23:40,747 Jacque and a few friends began to build what is now known as 346 00:23:40,887 --> 00:23:46,202 The Venus Project, named after the tiny nearby village of Venus, Florida. 347 00:23:46,706 --> 00:23:51,429 Occupying some 25 acres, 10 buildings have been constructed. 348 00:23:51,569 --> 00:23:56,147 Each utilizes both design, construction and lifestyle concepts 349 00:23:56,287 --> 00:24:01,306 integral to developing a working model of harmony and high productivity 350 00:24:01,446 --> 00:24:05,470 integrating both nature and advanced technology. 351 00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:09,469 Jacque's objective of conducting a complete reassessment and redesign 352 00:24:09,609 --> 00:24:14,027 of our entire culture remains the central focus of his work. 353 00:24:14,167 --> 00:24:16,531 With The Venus Project he has created an environment 354 00:24:16,671 --> 00:24:19,975 conducive to creativity and innovation. 355 00:24:27,034 --> 00:24:29,233 (R. Meadows) When people come here they're amazed to hear 356 00:24:29,373 --> 00:24:31,904 that this was just a flat tomato patch. 357 00:24:32,044 --> 00:24:34,946 We've dug out streams and ponds 358 00:24:35,086 --> 00:24:38,607 and planted hundreds of palm trees and trees 359 00:24:38,747 --> 00:24:43,639 We built this land to show what the outskirts of the city would be like. 360 00:24:43,779 --> 00:24:47,880 We have many buildings here, but you can't see one building when you're in another. 361 00:24:48,020 --> 00:24:51,695 We really wanted to show how high-tech and nature 362 00:24:51,845 --> 00:24:54,995 could coexist within this environment. 363 00:24:56,763 --> 00:24:59,028 (Gazecki) Jacque and Roxanne have been living on the property 364 00:24:59,168 --> 00:25:02,830 and building The Venus Project since the late 1970s. 365 00:25:03,309 --> 00:25:06,025 The entire time has been a constant process of developing 366 00:25:06,165 --> 00:25:09,100 and implementing new ideas. 367 00:25:10,824 --> 00:25:14,839 Jacque begins with a drawing, then produces a scale model 368 00:25:14,979 --> 00:25:17,481 and then videotapes his models in order to demonstrate 369 00:25:17,621 --> 00:25:20,693 his concepts for the future. 370 00:25:35,128 --> 00:25:38,120 Although Venus, Florida is relatively isolated 371 00:25:38,260 --> 00:25:41,501 visitors often make the journey to see The Venus Project 372 00:25:41,641 --> 00:25:43,779 and to meet Jacque. 373 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:46,545 -Joan. - I'm Margaret. - Hi, Margaret. 374 00:25:46,695 --> 00:25:48,795 I'm not going to remember your names, but... 375 00:25:48,945 --> 00:25:53,154 I'm Jacque. Hi, how are you? Good to see you. How are you? 376 00:25:54,918 --> 00:25:58,195 Have a seat, and then we'll go on with what this is about. 377 00:25:58,345 --> 00:26:00,148 Is everybody here? 378 00:26:01,258 --> 00:26:05,187 So, there was a time when most people believe 379 00:26:05,327 --> 00:26:08,572 that the decisions of the majority 380 00:26:08,712 --> 00:26:11,155 were very close to reality. 381 00:26:11,295 --> 00:26:13,817 But there was also a time when the majority of people 382 00:26:13,957 --> 00:26:16,345 believed the Earth was flat. 383 00:26:16,485 --> 00:26:19,093 And if you asked them whether they were sincere, they said "Of course! 384 00:26:19,233 --> 00:26:23,509 You can see it's flat!" So, they break a sincerity meter. 385 00:26:23,649 --> 00:26:26,904 But it isn't sincerity that the world needs. 386 00:26:27,044 --> 00:26:32,233 It needs the intelligent management of the Earth's resources. 387 00:26:32,373 --> 00:26:36,200 It's what we don't have. The major contribution... 388 00:26:36,340 --> 00:26:39,409 The Future by Design would like to provide is 389 00:26:39,549 --> 00:26:43,561 a method of coping with problems. 390 00:26:43,701 --> 00:26:47,837 Now, you're brought up to believe, I believe this 391 00:26:47,977 --> 00:26:50,377 that everyone should have a right to their own opinion. 392 00:26:50,517 --> 00:26:53,523 Isn't that the way you were brought up? - Yes, sir. - Okay. 393 00:26:53,663 --> 00:26:56,205 When you got everybody going around and giving their opinion 394 00:26:56,345 --> 00:27:00,340 "I'll tell you what's wrong with Jim!" They've got all kinds of opinions. 395 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,494 But when engineers talk to each other they don't say "Believe me." 396 00:27:04,634 --> 00:27:06,918 They say "See this new metal? 397 00:27:07,058 --> 00:27:09,495 It can hold up 4,000 pounds per square inch." 398 00:27:09,635 --> 00:27:13,232 He puts it in a machine and pulls it apart and he says "You're right!" 399 00:27:14,005 --> 00:27:18,566 I would say that the majority of the people of the world today are unsane. 400 00:27:18,706 --> 00:27:21,195 Not insane, unsane meaning: 401 00:27:21,345 --> 00:27:24,198 having been exposed to methods of evaluation 402 00:27:24,338 --> 00:27:27,372 that are long rendered obsolete. 403 00:27:27,512 --> 00:27:31,160 Our language in the future will change to a saner language 404 00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:33,709 where we have no argument in it. 405 00:27:33,849 --> 00:27:36,784 I said "Can there be such a language?" There is! 406 00:27:36,924 --> 00:27:41,523 When engineers talk to each other it's not subject to interpretation. 407 00:27:41,663 --> 00:27:44,631 They use math; they use descriptive systems. 408 00:27:44,771 --> 00:27:50,241 If I interpreted what another engineer said in the way I think he meant it 409 00:27:50,381 --> 00:27:53,393 you couldn't build bridges. You couldn't build dams 410 00:27:53,533 --> 00:27:55,666 or power transmission lines. 411 00:27:55,806 --> 00:27:57,968 The language has to have meaning. 412 00:27:58,108 --> 00:28:01,315 That's why when a doctor writes a prescription, if he prints it. 413 00:28:01,455 --> 00:28:04,179 It's the same all over the world. 414 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,083 The world I'm talking about is different. 415 00:28:08,867 --> 00:28:11,290 (Meadows) There aren't too many people that have seen everything 416 00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:13,525 that he's gone through in the past 417 00:28:13,665 --> 00:28:15,855 and come out of it with a certain direction. 418 00:28:15,995 --> 00:28:19,302 And the interesting thing is, too, is that he's not a philosopher 419 00:28:19,442 --> 00:28:23,084 that talks about how the world should be. His point of view. 420 00:28:23,224 --> 00:28:26,515 He's a technician that understands how it can be built 421 00:28:26,665 --> 00:28:30,925 and has worked with people and understands what it takes to change them 422 00:28:31,065 --> 00:28:34,846 and understands what it was that made them that way. 423 00:28:34,986 --> 00:28:37,363 So it's really based on hands-on learning 424 00:28:37,503 --> 00:28:40,046 and not reading something in a book. 425 00:28:40,186 --> 00:28:44,111 He went through the experiences himself 426 00:28:44,251 --> 00:28:47,067 and came out with the conclusions he did 427 00:28:47,207 --> 00:28:50,933 because it was based on actually learning-experience 428 00:28:51,073 --> 00:28:53,589 and experiments. 429 00:28:55,590 --> 00:29:00,761 (Fresco) When an engineer has an idea he talks to the computer about his idea. 430 00:29:00,901 --> 00:29:04,725 While they're talking about it the integrated computerized system 431 00:29:04,865 --> 00:29:07,293 will take the elements that they're speaking about 432 00:29:07,433 --> 00:29:10,297 convert the language into imagery 433 00:29:10,437 --> 00:29:12,887 and the image will turn 434 00:29:13,027 --> 00:29:15,706 and be exposed to all of the people watching 435 00:29:15,846 --> 00:29:18,416 at the exhibit and presentation. 436 00:29:18,556 --> 00:29:20,695 They will question the presentation 437 00:29:20,835 --> 00:29:23,895 but the image system will answer the questions 438 00:29:24,035 --> 00:29:27,765 how the buildings are fabricated, how water is supplied 439 00:29:27,915 --> 00:29:30,944 how it handles earthquakes, or any other question. 440 00:29:31,084 --> 00:29:34,541 Instead of people sitting around asking individual questions 441 00:29:34,681 --> 00:29:38,468 the answers are demonstrated inside 442 00:29:38,608 --> 00:29:41,576 of what appears to be a transparent dome. 443 00:29:41,716 --> 00:29:45,825 Ideas are not just verbal, because when you talk verbally 444 00:29:45,975 --> 00:29:49,245 it does not deliver enough information to people. 445 00:29:49,395 --> 00:29:52,615 A more comprehensive system of communication 446 00:29:52,768 --> 00:29:55,425 is 3-dimensional imaging always 447 00:29:55,575 --> 00:29:57,715 showing people what you've got in mind 448 00:29:57,865 --> 00:30:01,765 not what they think you've got in mind. 449 00:30:03,205 --> 00:30:07,615 - Designed with a holographic computer and built from prefabricated materials 450 00:30:07,755 --> 00:30:11,505 the home of the future will be far more than just a residence. 451 00:30:11,645 --> 00:30:13,815 It will be an element of lifestyle 452 00:30:13,955 --> 00:30:18,455 and will facilitate learning, inspiration and communication. 453 00:30:19,205 --> 00:30:23,395 (Fresco) One of the most interesting aspects of tomorrow's civilization 454 00:30:23,535 --> 00:30:27,175 will be the fact that if you knew anyone fairly well 455 00:30:27,325 --> 00:30:30,745 and went to visit them in a period of time of just a few years 456 00:30:30,895 --> 00:30:34,605 their houses will change, because the people living in them change. 457 00:30:34,755 --> 00:30:38,585 Their needs and dimension of knowledge grows considerably 458 00:30:38,735 --> 00:30:42,015 and so will the environment that they live in. There's no such thing 459 00:30:42,155 --> 00:30:45,515 as a fixed home that a person lives in all their lives. 460 00:30:45,665 --> 00:30:48,735 It changes with their values, with their outlook 461 00:30:48,875 --> 00:30:50,900 with their acquired knowledge. 462 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,910 - You had said one thing about how the buildings 463 00:30:53,050 --> 00:30:55,435 were designed according to function. -Yes 464 00:30:55,575 --> 00:30:59,575 - The curvature, and the materials, and the... -Yes 465 00:30:59,715 --> 00:31:02,115 I compare it to natural physiology 466 00:31:02,255 --> 00:31:06,595 an animal's shape is not designed from the outside in; 467 00:31:07,145 --> 00:31:09,975 It evolves from the inside out. 468 00:31:10,105 --> 00:31:14,195 Whatever you request, the exterior will express 469 00:31:14,365 --> 00:31:17,995 a cover over the shape that you'd prefer to live in. 470 00:31:21,835 --> 00:31:24,315 Some of the buildings that are dome-shaped 471 00:31:24,455 --> 00:31:27,525 can be laid like eggs continuously 472 00:31:27,685 --> 00:31:30,795 by a machine that carries a dome shape. 473 00:31:30,935 --> 00:31:33,315 And in that dome the exterior 474 00:31:33,455 --> 00:31:36,455 and the interior fabricate at the same time. 475 00:31:42,575 --> 00:31:45,575 Not everyone will choose to live in a dome. 476 00:31:48,295 --> 00:31:51,215 They will choose to live in whatever architectural shape 477 00:31:51,725 --> 00:31:53,585 would meet their needs. 478 00:31:53,715 --> 00:31:56,495 The reason why we suggest a dome 479 00:31:56,635 --> 00:32:00,195 is it uses the minimum amount of materials and 480 00:32:00,585 --> 00:32:05,845 covers the maximum areas and offers maximum strength. 481 00:32:06,015 --> 00:32:11,515 The dome shape is included in almost all of nature. 482 00:32:11,805 --> 00:32:15,635 Your brain is in a dome. The cranial case is in a dome. 483 00:32:15,835 --> 00:32:19,015 When a person says "Yeah, I don't think I'd want to live in a dome"; 484 00:32:19,155 --> 00:32:22,195 you've been living in a dome most of your life. 485 00:32:23,945 --> 00:32:26,775 The interior of the building will have no source of light. 486 00:32:26,925 --> 00:32:30,625 You won't be able to see a lamp or source of light. 487 00:32:30,775 --> 00:32:35,435 All the walls would have even illumination. 488 00:32:35,585 --> 00:32:39,105 You can also specify the color of the illumination. 489 00:32:39,245 --> 00:32:43,295 Either, the entire inner surface or local areas 490 00:32:43,495 --> 00:32:47,195 of different color; if this is your request. 491 00:32:48,915 --> 00:32:51,325 This will be the simplest type of bathroom 492 00:32:51,745 --> 00:32:56,695 shower, sink, toilet bowl, molded into one system. 493 00:32:57,075 --> 00:33:00,555 Actually, there's no hardware on here. 494 00:33:00,695 --> 00:33:04,645 but there's a slot and the water comes out as a ribbon 495 00:33:04,795 --> 00:33:07,215 and that'll cut the soap off the hand 496 00:33:07,505 --> 00:33:10,895 and use about 1/6th the amount of water. 497 00:33:11,035 --> 00:33:13,825 Now, the waste water from the sink 498 00:33:13,975 --> 00:33:17,915 goes down into a pipe around here and fills the water closet 499 00:33:18,065 --> 00:33:20,415 and we flush the john with that water. 500 00:33:20,555 --> 00:33:25,395 Instead of telling people to save water, build a system in. 501 00:33:25,545 --> 00:33:28,895 This is what it's all about, if you wish to conserve water. 502 00:33:29,135 --> 00:33:33,035 The bathrooms may vary from that simple style 503 00:33:33,195 --> 00:33:37,296 to slightly more complex, but all one piece. 504 00:33:37,445 --> 00:33:41,425 There may be as many as fifty variations on a bathroom. 505 00:33:41,575 --> 00:33:45,195 You pick what you want and then it's installed. 506 00:33:49,195 --> 00:33:53,195 When you leave the building, the entire building is clean. 507 00:33:55,395 --> 00:33:58,425 We also have a slight increase in air pressure in the building; 508 00:33:58,575 --> 00:34:01,875 so no dust comes in your house from the outside. 509 00:34:04,195 --> 00:34:06,375 If there's any contaminants in the air 510 00:34:06,525 --> 00:34:11,195 it increases the electrostatic charge, which removes contaminants. 511 00:34:14,005 --> 00:34:18,195 It would be a smart house, because the house has its own nervous system. 512 00:34:18,475 --> 00:34:20,975 This is what I'm saying. 513 00:34:23,515 --> 00:34:27,435 In the future houses will have many sensory devices 514 00:34:27,585 --> 00:34:30,795 to detect fire, toxic materials 515 00:34:30,995 --> 00:34:33,375 anything that may threaten the life of a human being. 516 00:34:33,525 --> 00:34:35,705 If you walked into the house of the future 517 00:34:35,845 --> 00:34:38,195 you might say "Can I use your phone?" 518 00:34:38,625 --> 00:34:40,715 I'd say "Well, what's a phone?" 519 00:34:40,865 --> 00:34:44,475 You'd just say "I'd like to talk to Sam in Arabia". 520 00:34:44,615 --> 00:34:46,985 "What part of Arabia?" You just announce what you want 521 00:34:47,125 --> 00:34:49,365 and the sound would be focused and at some point 522 00:34:49,505 --> 00:34:54,195 you are standing, right at your ear. So, you can hear Sam in Arabia. 523 00:34:58,295 --> 00:35:01,425 In southern Florida, millions of dollars 524 00:35:01,575 --> 00:35:05,125 in buildings were destroyed by the big hurricane there 525 00:35:05,265 --> 00:35:08,465 and they'd put up buildings that look just about the same. 526 00:35:08,815 --> 00:35:11,055 If you don't want hurricane damage... 527 00:35:11,195 --> 00:35:15,265 an inverted cone...it's almost impossible 528 00:35:15,405 --> 00:35:18,375 for a whirlwind to pick up an inverted cone. 529 00:35:18,515 --> 00:35:20,795 We would have these shelters built 530 00:35:20,935 --> 00:35:23,955 in the West Indies or wherever hurricanes occur. 531 00:35:24,105 --> 00:35:27,435 Inside would be pull-down bedding 532 00:35:27,575 --> 00:35:30,495 food storage and emergency water. 533 00:35:30,645 --> 00:35:35,335 This is the kind of form that no vortex or wind can pick up. 534 00:35:35,485 --> 00:35:38,455 Try to pick this up with greasy fingers 535 00:35:39,065 --> 00:35:42,195 and that's similar to the wind whirling around it. 536 00:35:58,155 --> 00:36:00,935 (Gazecki) For apartment buildings and other large structures 537 00:36:01,085 --> 00:36:04,595 Jacque has devised a cybernated construction system. 538 00:36:05,075 --> 00:36:07,575 Computer-controlled robots will handle 90% 539 00:36:07,715 --> 00:36:11,715 of the movement and placement of prefabricated components. 540 00:36:12,395 --> 00:36:14,565 Special advanced materials are to be developed 541 00:36:14,705 --> 00:36:18,295 eliminating waste and minimizing the need for manual labor. 542 00:36:18,975 --> 00:36:21,535 Guided by satellite and using a sophisticated form 543 00:36:21,665 --> 00:36:25,915 of artificial intelligence, the buildings will construct themselves; 544 00:36:26,065 --> 00:36:30,195 a technique Jacque has named "self-erecting structures". 545 00:36:34,615 --> 00:36:39,555 This represents a relatively complex aluminum extrusion. 546 00:36:39,995 --> 00:36:42,325 If you were to take a toothpaste tube 547 00:36:42,465 --> 00:36:47,455 cut the letter "T" in the opening and squeeze the toothpaste 548 00:36:47,595 --> 00:36:50,155 it would come out like the letter "T"; 549 00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:53,195 and this is how extrusions are made. 550 00:36:53,925 --> 00:36:57,145 However, in the future it may be possible 551 00:36:57,285 --> 00:37:00,415 to extrude complete apartment houses 552 00:37:00,555 --> 00:37:03,555 apartment building units or modules. 553 00:37:05,955 --> 00:37:09,855 This extruder can be faced with different dies 554 00:37:10,005 --> 00:37:12,055 to mold different shapes. 555 00:37:12,195 --> 00:37:16,195 Almost an infinite variety of shapes can be extruded. 556 00:37:16,515 --> 00:37:20,935 So, it would be the apartment of your preference that's extruded. 557 00:37:22,025 --> 00:37:26,115 So, any shape, or almost any extruded shape 558 00:37:26,255 --> 00:37:30,975 can be designed to fit many different architectural arrangements. 559 00:37:35,155 --> 00:37:37,975 This is a transitional type structure 560 00:37:38,115 --> 00:37:42,615 which utilizes cranes to lift the components of the building. 561 00:37:43,875 --> 00:37:46,935 Eventually, the building itself will be part 562 00:37:47,085 --> 00:37:49,885 of the self-erecting structure. 563 00:37:55,315 --> 00:37:58,695 Don't forget all the models that I do are only transitional. 564 00:37:58,845 --> 00:38:02,495 They don't represent the best that man can turn out 565 00:38:02,645 --> 00:38:05,385 because no one knows what the future will bring. 566 00:38:05,625 --> 00:38:10,195 There's just so many variables that can alter things. 567 00:38:10,355 --> 00:38:13,945 So the models that I make are all transitional. 568 00:38:14,095 --> 00:38:17,625 And many of them are only conceptual; they're not necessarily 569 00:38:17,775 --> 00:38:20,275 what the future might look like. 570 00:38:22,755 --> 00:38:24,975 Let's say they're extrapolations 571 00:38:25,195 --> 00:38:28,745 of taking the present and extrapolating forward. 572 00:38:28,895 --> 00:38:31,295 But we can't go too far forward 573 00:38:31,445 --> 00:38:35,775 because we don't know what new things will come into being. 574 00:38:46,365 --> 00:38:49,655 This looks like a train station. 575 00:38:49,965 --> 00:38:53,775 We hope to phase out the airplane by designing 576 00:38:54,285 --> 00:38:57,545 transportation units that can move up to 2000 miles an hour 577 00:38:57,695 --> 00:39:01,495 floating on a magnetic repulsive field or an air cushion. 578 00:39:01,765 --> 00:39:05,025 In those huge trains of tomorrow there'll be television 579 00:39:05,285 --> 00:39:08,045 radio, amusement, art centers, classrooms; 580 00:39:08,195 --> 00:39:11,555 not a group of seats lined up as your trains are today. 581 00:39:11,705 --> 00:39:14,135 If forty or fifty people have to leave the train 582 00:39:14,275 --> 00:39:16,075 we slow up to a hundred miles an hour 583 00:39:16,195 --> 00:39:19,225 lift off the passenger section or slide it off 584 00:39:19,375 --> 00:39:22,055 and slide on a section with the passengers getting on. 585 00:39:22,195 --> 00:39:24,705 You don't have to stop the whole plane, or the train. 586 00:39:24,855 --> 00:39:27,475 In the future we will just shove off those passengers 587 00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:29,675 getting off and that freight leaving. 588 00:39:29,815 --> 00:39:32,195 This is part of the linear acceleration train 589 00:39:32,345 --> 00:39:35,396 that can take you anywhere in the world in just a few hours; 590 00:39:35,545 --> 00:39:39,055 safely, without snow, rain, being lost at sea... 591 00:39:52,775 --> 00:39:56,995 A monorail is one of the methods of transportation. 592 00:39:57,145 --> 00:40:00,835 Some of them can be suspended by magnetic levitation. 593 00:40:00,985 --> 00:40:04,195 Others can use wheels and ride the rails. 594 00:40:07,055 --> 00:40:11,285 This is an aerial perspective of a monorail station 595 00:40:11,435 --> 00:40:14,905 with entrance and exits on the side of the highway. 596 00:40:15,125 --> 00:40:17,535 This is actually a true monorail 597 00:40:17,675 --> 00:40:22,835 because it is one rail system that supports two trains. 598 00:40:22,975 --> 00:40:27,975 Most monorails aren't really monorail; they consist of two tracks. 599 00:40:28,505 --> 00:40:31,195 This is accomplished on one track. 600 00:40:48,175 --> 00:40:52,425 The vehicles of the future will be highly aerodynamic in shape. 601 00:40:53,045 --> 00:40:56,555 Their shape will permit the minimum amount of skin resistance 602 00:40:56,705 --> 00:41:01,565 giving you the maximum distance for minimum fuel consumption. 603 00:41:01,715 --> 00:41:05,055 The front end of the car will be equipped with radar or sonar 604 00:41:05,195 --> 00:41:08,545 or other sensory devices that can detect the distance 605 00:41:08,695 --> 00:41:13,665 you are from other vehicles and maintain that separation automatically. 606 00:41:13,825 --> 00:41:18,445 In other words, on a highway or anywhere where two cars 607 00:41:18,735 --> 00:41:21,845 might hit each other, the electronic sensors 608 00:41:22,035 --> 00:41:24,825 would sense the distance automatically 609 00:41:24,975 --> 00:41:29,445 and keep the cars from side-swiping or making contact at all. 610 00:41:30,195 --> 00:41:34,485 Even if they did and then pinched a slight dent in the car 611 00:41:34,635 --> 00:41:37,195 the car would be made up of the memory materials; 612 00:41:37,355 --> 00:41:39,615 shape-memory alloys that go back 613 00:41:39,755 --> 00:41:42,795 to their original shape even when dented. 614 00:41:43,635 --> 00:41:47,195 I'm going to take this metal called nitinol. 615 00:41:47,375 --> 00:41:51,475 This wire, or spring, is wound around a mandrel and 616 00:41:51,625 --> 00:41:56,495 heated to a specific temperature and held until it cools. 617 00:41:57,145 --> 00:42:01,265 Then, when you pull it out beyond its elastic limit 618 00:42:01,405 --> 00:42:04,485 so it's not about to return to the spring shape 619 00:42:04,635 --> 00:42:08,635 and then you form it in many different ways. 620 00:42:08,855 --> 00:42:12,375 If it's heated... I'll put it on this form 621 00:42:12,525 --> 00:42:15,255 so it won't drift away 622 00:42:15,405 --> 00:42:17,625 and I'm going to heat that metal 623 00:42:17,775 --> 00:42:21,265 you can watch it return to its original shape. 624 00:42:21,415 --> 00:42:23,875 It's called "shape-memory alloys". 625 00:42:24,015 --> 00:42:26,475 It could be done in plastics, metals 626 00:42:26,615 --> 00:42:29,305 or any other materials in the future. 627 00:42:29,455 --> 00:42:31,895 Watch how it returns. 628 00:42:41,035 --> 00:42:44,045 Even if there's an area of the car we removed 629 00:42:44,215 --> 00:42:48,685 they can be rebuilt, in other words, automatically 630 00:42:48,835 --> 00:42:53,195 by the car having a memory system of its configuration 631 00:42:53,385 --> 00:42:56,235 just, like the human body, just like, perhaps 632 00:42:56,385 --> 00:43:01,655 in lizards and salamanders and certain types of organisms today 633 00:43:01,805 --> 00:43:04,385 can regenerate parts of their body. 634 00:43:04,535 --> 00:43:08,715 The technology of the future will enable our automotive vehicles 635 00:43:08,865 --> 00:43:12,825 to repair and regenerate damaged areas. 636 00:43:23,745 --> 00:43:27,755 This is a transport unit, or air-suspended unit. 637 00:43:27,905 --> 00:43:31,425 It will travel five or four feet above the ground 638 00:43:31,575 --> 00:43:33,965 and not requiring highways or bridges. 639 00:43:34,105 --> 00:43:36,985 You can turn around by electrodynamic means 640 00:43:37,135 --> 00:43:39,175 discharging air from the right or the left side 641 00:43:39,285 --> 00:43:45,065 not by tunneled air paths, but just by attracting or repelling air. 642 00:43:54,565 --> 00:43:57,455 I did this about 65 years ago. 643 00:43:57,605 --> 00:44:00,595 This is what an automobile will look like in the future. 644 00:44:00,745 --> 00:44:03,485 It'll have sensors on it. So, if I got mad at you 645 00:44:03,625 --> 00:44:06,155 and, when I get within a certain distance, the breaks go on. 646 00:44:06,295 --> 00:44:09,295 If I'm backing up and there's a child crossing, the car stops. 647 00:44:09,995 --> 00:44:12,795 No one drowns in a swimming pool, because a net comes up 648 00:44:12,945 --> 00:44:14,995 when you're not home. Is that clear? 649 00:44:15,135 --> 00:44:18,605 If somebody falls in the pool and you're busy cooking... 650 00:44:18,755 --> 00:44:21,715 the child sinks to the bottom, a tight net comes up right away. 651 00:44:21,855 --> 00:44:24,855 What do you want? What kind of world do you want? 652 00:44:25,295 --> 00:44:29,295 What you see here is just glimpses of the future. 653 00:44:30,715 --> 00:44:35,195 So, we'll go and look the place over so you've got a better idea. 654 00:44:37,295 --> 00:44:40,505 That area over there, across the water 655 00:44:40,905 --> 00:44:44,995 we will build a very large dome like a center for dialogue 656 00:44:45,275 --> 00:44:47,915 to invite different people out here. 657 00:45:21,435 --> 00:45:24,475 This is a freighter with separate sections. 658 00:45:25,115 --> 00:45:27,895 This freighter can deliver this to the Philippines 659 00:45:28,035 --> 00:45:30,515 drop this off in Hawaii... And so 660 00:45:30,665 --> 00:45:33,395 when all of the freight bays are released 661 00:45:33,545 --> 00:45:38,095 they are propelled automatically to the loading docks. 662 00:45:38,245 --> 00:45:41,325 And then the forward portion of the ship and the rear portion 663 00:45:41,475 --> 00:45:44,645 which is the propulsion unit, are joined together. 664 00:45:44,785 --> 00:45:47,775 So you always travel at a balanced load; 665 00:45:47,925 --> 00:45:50,605 you never travel with an empty hull back. 666 00:45:50,755 --> 00:45:56,695 Using energy that way conserves millions of gallons of fuel 667 00:45:56,865 --> 00:46:00,195 if you use fuel in a conventional sense. 668 00:46:01,555 --> 00:46:05,935 This is a possible propulsion method. In this instance 669 00:46:06,085 --> 00:46:10,085 water is drawn toward the surface of the ship electrodynamically. 670 00:46:10,625 --> 00:46:14,155 And, in turn, the ship's reaction is forward 671 00:46:14,305 --> 00:46:16,375 away from the pressure toward the rear. 672 00:46:16,525 --> 00:46:20,995 It's like holding a peach pit, and squeezing it, and it moves forward. 673 00:46:21,695 --> 00:46:24,965 It has far less wake 674 00:46:25,115 --> 00:46:27,065 less water turbulence 675 00:46:27,215 --> 00:46:29,665 and very little energy consumed. 676 00:46:32,045 --> 00:46:34,445 What you see here is an illustration 677 00:46:34,595 --> 00:46:38,195 of underwater transportation for the future. 678 00:46:38,435 --> 00:46:42,395 At the very leading edge air bubbles will be emitted 679 00:46:42,545 --> 00:46:44,545 very rapidly in front of the unit 680 00:46:44,665 --> 00:46:47,145 and that will cut down the resistance considerably. 681 00:46:47,285 --> 00:46:49,665 If you were to release thousands of air bubbles 682 00:46:49,825 --> 00:46:52,225 underneath the ship, it would sink 683 00:46:52,375 --> 00:46:56,205 because the water is less buoyant with the air bubbles in it. 684 00:46:56,355 --> 00:46:59,045 The air bubbles will be a system in the future 685 00:46:59,205 --> 00:47:01,705 for reducing the forward resistance. 686 00:47:03,195 --> 00:47:07,195 Transporting things underwater is much more economical 687 00:47:07,565 --> 00:47:10,045 and offers much less resistance. 688 00:47:10,435 --> 00:47:12,495 When traveling on the surface, you're confronted 689 00:47:12,615 --> 00:47:15,115 with waves and wave motion. 690 00:47:15,255 --> 00:47:18,255 Underwater you don't have that problem at all. 691 00:47:24,025 --> 00:47:28,495 We talk about civilization as though it's a static state. 692 00:47:28,655 --> 00:47:30,895 There are no civilized people yet. 693 00:47:31,045 --> 00:47:34,055 It's a process that's constantly going on. 694 00:47:34,195 --> 00:47:37,535 We're not civilized. It's an ongoing process; 695 00:47:37,685 --> 00:47:41,055 and so we never become fully civilized. 696 00:47:41,215 --> 00:47:44,145 We'd have to know quite a bit in order to behave 697 00:47:44,325 --> 00:47:47,085 in the most constructive manner. 698 00:47:47,235 --> 00:47:50,045 And that goes for intelligence. 699 00:47:50,195 --> 00:47:53,395 I don't know if I've talked to you about an electrical engineer 700 00:47:53,535 --> 00:47:58,165 of 75 years ago, an intelligent one, couldn't get a job today. 701 00:47:58,495 --> 00:48:01,495 When you're talking about intelligence, what are you talking about? 702 00:48:01,645 --> 00:48:04,015 It's an ongoing process. 703 00:48:04,165 --> 00:48:06,935 That's why there's no such thing as an intelligent person. 704 00:48:07,075 --> 00:48:11,145 There are people that are fairly well-informed in area A and B 705 00:48:11,285 --> 00:48:13,515 not informed in area C. 706 00:48:13,665 --> 00:48:16,825 When you go on with a word like civilization 707 00:48:16,965 --> 00:48:19,625 it sounds like something that was attained. 708 00:48:19,775 --> 00:48:23,795 As long as you have war, police, prisons, crime 709 00:48:23,955 --> 00:48:26,135 you're in the early stages of civilization; 710 00:48:26,265 --> 00:48:29,195 what they call civilization. 711 00:48:45,995 --> 00:48:49,125 This type of helicopter, or aircraft 712 00:48:49,285 --> 00:48:52,805 would have its propulsion unit at the tip of the blades. 713 00:48:52,955 --> 00:48:56,195 They'd be relatively small, high thrust. 714 00:48:57,305 --> 00:49:00,495 The center of the disc, or the passenger compartment 715 00:49:00,735 --> 00:49:04,945 would remain stationary while the blades spun around. 716 00:49:05,595 --> 00:49:07,965 In the event of engine failure 717 00:49:08,115 --> 00:49:12,595 the blades can automatically gyrate and bring the craft down 718 00:49:12,745 --> 00:49:16,695 not only vertically but can travel forward by tilting. 719 00:49:21,845 --> 00:49:25,955 You will notice that there are no ailerons or elevators on this plane. 720 00:49:26,105 --> 00:49:30,195 It's operated in a different manner, also by ion propulsion. 721 00:49:30,885 --> 00:49:35,245 Electron discharge is much lighter, much cheaper, much safer 722 00:49:35,385 --> 00:49:38,455 much faster and less energy consumed. 723 00:49:40,225 --> 00:49:42,835 In the future, by controlling the airflow 724 00:49:42,975 --> 00:49:45,335 over wings and the direction of it 725 00:49:45,475 --> 00:49:50,425 the need for a rudder will be rendered obsolete. 726 00:49:55,335 --> 00:49:58,325 For individual transportation of small groups 727 00:49:58,475 --> 00:50:01,745 you have the vertical landing and take-off 728 00:50:01,895 --> 00:50:06,475 VTOL aircraft of the future. They are called "lift fuselage". 729 00:50:06,625 --> 00:50:09,875 The body itself generates the lift 730 00:50:10,025 --> 00:50:13,875 for this type of aircraft. It is propelled electronically 731 00:50:14,135 --> 00:50:17,845 meaning particles are electrified and discharged 732 00:50:17,995 --> 00:50:21,845 from the rear of the craft; which propel the craft forward. 733 00:50:21,995 --> 00:50:27,085 For hovering, we then eject the same propellant downward 734 00:50:27,575 --> 00:50:32,725 and generate a ring vortex, a whirling vortex beneath the craft. 735 00:50:32,875 --> 00:50:37,195 The control of that vortex determines the speed downward. 736 00:50:49,175 --> 00:50:52,335 We're going over to the model dome where we have models 737 00:50:52,475 --> 00:50:56,875 of future type buildings and how they go together. 738 00:51:02,455 --> 00:51:05,055 Here you have the city system. 739 00:51:05,565 --> 00:51:08,565 I put domes here, but there'll be many variations. 740 00:51:08,755 --> 00:51:11,045 In other words... - What are those? 741 00:51:11,335 --> 00:51:14,475 - These are research centers. - Okay. -This is medicine 742 00:51:14,625 --> 00:51:18,385 agronomy, population designing 743 00:51:18,605 --> 00:51:21,945 improvement of products, energy systems. 744 00:51:22,245 --> 00:51:24,715 Energy in the future will be geothermal, most of it. 745 00:51:24,855 --> 00:51:27,595 You can get that from the earth. There's enough geothermal energy 746 00:51:27,745 --> 00:51:30,945 for thousands of years without worrying about anything. 747 00:51:31,095 --> 00:51:35,885 I'm not talking about solar, wind power or wave power 748 00:51:36,025 --> 00:51:38,265 or tidal power. All that is extra. 749 00:51:38,415 --> 00:51:42,515 There's no shortage of anything except brains in Washington. 750 00:51:43,085 --> 00:51:45,985 - You can't make money from the sun. - What's that? 751 00:51:46,135 --> 00:51:50,605 - You can't make money from the sun! - No, you can't. Exactly that. 752 00:51:51,865 --> 00:51:55,065 All these buildings can come apart and be recycled. 753 00:51:55,945 --> 00:51:58,945 Now if you follow me we'll go to the future. 754 00:52:01,355 --> 00:52:05,235 (Larry King) Alright, let's explore the thinking of Jacque Fresco 755 00:52:05,375 --> 00:52:08,135 and the society he'd like to see. 756 00:52:08,335 --> 00:52:10,505 We'll start with this, and you tell me... 757 00:52:10,655 --> 00:52:13,285 - I'll try to point it out. - Yeah, you can point right at it. 758 00:52:13,435 --> 00:52:17,155 - Most of the cities are based on natural configurations 759 00:52:17,295 --> 00:52:20,195 basic designs in nature. The center of the city 760 00:52:20,335 --> 00:52:23,565 the nucleus, will house an electronic computer 761 00:52:23,715 --> 00:52:28,385 which only controls water purification, the atmospheric conditions 762 00:52:28,535 --> 00:52:31,475 that is, it controls air contamination systems 763 00:52:31,625 --> 00:52:34,865 they maintain safety, they oversee the environment 764 00:52:35,075 --> 00:52:39,345 maintain ecological balance between animal life and plant life. 765 00:52:39,535 --> 00:52:42,065 The center of the city is a university. 766 00:52:42,215 --> 00:52:46,265 A university that covers all subjects related to man. 767 00:52:46,405 --> 00:52:49,635 There's no courses that are used to exploit 768 00:52:49,785 --> 00:52:52,785 or abuse any other human being. 769 00:52:53,125 --> 00:52:56,685 All repetitious jobs will be phased out. 770 00:52:56,835 --> 00:52:59,925 We feel that machines ought to do the filthy 771 00:53:00,075 --> 00:53:02,425 or the repetitious, or the boring jobs 772 00:53:02,575 --> 00:53:06,465 that man has to be free to pursue the higher things 773 00:53:06,615 --> 00:53:09,195 the higher possibilities of man. 774 00:53:13,505 --> 00:53:17,145 (Gazecki) You came up with this idea for a round city. 775 00:53:17,295 --> 00:53:20,065 - A round city. A round governmental branch. 776 00:53:20,215 --> 00:53:24,355 Extending out of it would be the department of agriculture 777 00:53:24,505 --> 00:53:29,435 education, oceanography, the disciplines. 778 00:53:33,105 --> 00:53:36,735 The circular scheme, or plan, brings each district 779 00:53:36,885 --> 00:53:40,525 closer to the central dome, which contains the medical 780 00:53:40,675 --> 00:53:44,265 food, shopping, everything else that people need. 781 00:53:44,415 --> 00:53:48,665 The circular arrangement makes it easier to operate 782 00:53:48,815 --> 00:53:52,165 using far less energy than any other system. 783 00:53:52,315 --> 00:53:55,455 If you start at one end of the city and go through the city 784 00:53:55,605 --> 00:53:57,605 you'll always return to the same place. 785 00:53:57,725 --> 00:54:00,105 Whereas, in a linear city, you go to one end 786 00:54:00,245 --> 00:54:03,195 you have to backtrack to get to the same point. 787 00:54:03,355 --> 00:54:07,486 The circular scheme is, by far, the most efficient. 788 00:54:07,625 --> 00:54:09,895 When cities are contracted in the future 789 00:54:10,045 --> 00:54:14,115 they will be contracted as a whole, as an entire system. 790 00:54:14,255 --> 00:54:17,975 In that way, all of the parts and components 791 00:54:18,125 --> 00:54:21,135 would be delivered in stages, like sequence one 792 00:54:21,285 --> 00:54:24,515 will be the underground: the heating system 793 00:54:24,665 --> 00:54:29,795 the electric generators, the piping systems, the recycling systems. 794 00:54:29,945 --> 00:54:32,865 After that, the next layer, which would serve 795 00:54:33,005 --> 00:54:37,415 as the first layer that contains the architecture 796 00:54:37,675 --> 00:54:39,995 the foundations for all the buildings. 797 00:54:40,135 --> 00:54:44,195 After that, the erection of structures up from the foundations 798 00:54:44,695 --> 00:54:47,545 starting with the central portion of the city 799 00:54:47,695 --> 00:54:51,635 working its way out to the different radial sectors 800 00:54:51,785 --> 00:54:54,795 and then out to the final housing sectors 801 00:54:54,945 --> 00:54:59,935 and then to the agricultural belt, and then to the recreation areas. 802 00:55:01,785 --> 00:55:04,755 The cities themselves are prefabricated. 803 00:55:04,895 --> 00:55:09,165 Most of the elements that comprise the structures of the cities 804 00:55:09,315 --> 00:55:11,555 are interchangeable, interlocking. 805 00:55:11,675 --> 00:55:14,675 They are designed so they can be disassembled 806 00:55:14,825 --> 00:55:16,935 just as they were assembled. 807 00:55:17,085 --> 00:55:21,195 The new cities will be updated continuously. 808 00:55:22,855 --> 00:55:25,575 As the waters are piped into the cities 809 00:55:25,725 --> 00:55:29,775 they are checked. To whatever extent contamination exists 810 00:55:30,165 --> 00:55:33,045 the water processing plants evaporate the water 811 00:55:33,195 --> 00:55:36,115 recondense it and cleanse it. 812 00:55:36,265 --> 00:55:40,115 All waters piped into the city will be monitored constantly 813 00:55:40,265 --> 00:55:44,545 not by a monitoring system, but several monitoring systems. 814 00:55:44,695 --> 00:55:47,535 The same is true of the air above and around the city: 815 00:55:47,815 --> 00:55:50,315 it's constantly monitored. 816 00:55:53,455 --> 00:55:57,195 All of the rooftops are photovoltaic. 817 00:55:57,345 --> 00:56:00,045 All of the skin, outer skin of the building 818 00:56:00,195 --> 00:56:03,785 convert solar radiation into electrical energy. 819 00:56:04,925 --> 00:56:08,375 As we move beyond the third sector 820 00:56:08,525 --> 00:56:11,825 we come to tennis courts, parks. 821 00:56:12,285 --> 00:56:16,015 Beyond that is the residential district, which consists of lakes 822 00:56:16,165 --> 00:56:20,285 waterfalls, all kinds of beautiful plants throughout the area. 823 00:56:20,435 --> 00:56:23,915 Each house is concealed by plants 824 00:56:24,065 --> 00:56:27,635 so you can't see another building. Some people prefer 825 00:56:27,825 --> 00:56:31,195 as in the next sector, to live in apartment houses. 826 00:56:31,635 --> 00:56:35,915 The apartments have drama groups, recreation, swimming pools 827 00:56:36,315 --> 00:56:39,845 discussion groups and so many other facilities. 828 00:56:39,995 --> 00:56:43,635 The disadvantage of living in a private home is you would have to go 829 00:56:43,785 --> 00:56:47,595 to the various places to access the same things. 830 00:56:48,605 --> 00:56:51,375 Instead of motor vehicles in the city 831 00:56:51,525 --> 00:56:55,895 all transportation is carried on by circular conveyors 832 00:56:56,045 --> 00:56:58,345 that we call transveyors. 833 00:56:58,504 --> 00:57:02,795 They move radially, circumferentially and vertically. 834 00:57:03,195 --> 00:57:07,535 They serve the function of elevators, buses, conveyors. 835 00:57:07,925 --> 00:57:11,055 If you wish to go to another city, you can take an elevator 836 00:57:11,205 --> 00:57:15,585 down beneath the central dome, which has Maglev trains, etc. 837 00:57:15,735 --> 00:57:17,705 that will transport you to the center 838 00:57:17,855 --> 00:57:21,075 of any other city or any other region. 839 00:57:22,555 --> 00:57:25,145 There will be no waste products, just as in nature 840 00:57:25,285 --> 00:57:27,525 there are no waste products. All materials 841 00:57:27,675 --> 00:57:30,675 that we would formerly called waste would be recycled 842 00:57:30,825 --> 00:57:34,195 and converted into new products. 843 00:57:36,195 --> 00:57:39,195 When the city hits a certain number of people 844 00:57:40,135 --> 00:57:43,565 we stop the development and let everything go back to nature 845 00:57:43,715 --> 00:57:46,715 between this and the next city. 846 00:57:50,985 --> 00:57:54,045 It doesn't mean that we can solve all the problems. 847 00:57:54,195 --> 00:57:57,655 We can just design and build a far better environment 848 00:57:57,805 --> 00:58:00,805 to advance all human beings. 849 00:58:08,525 --> 00:58:11,195 Not everybody will live in a dome. 850 00:58:11,325 --> 00:58:15,695 This is different types of architecture; this may be a vacation house. 851 00:58:15,845 --> 00:58:18,775 I don't know what people will choose to live in 852 00:58:18,925 --> 00:58:21,975 but that would be up to each individual. 853 00:58:22,405 --> 00:58:25,405 What we want to do is build cities in the sea. 854 00:58:27,195 --> 00:58:29,855 You pick the city you want to live in. Some of these cities 855 00:58:30,005 --> 00:58:33,795 are for ocean mining. The oceans have tungsten, manganese 856 00:58:33,945 --> 00:58:37,265 phosphorous; all kinds of chemical stuff we may need. 857 00:58:37,415 --> 00:58:39,625 They're made available to all people. 858 00:58:39,775 --> 00:58:42,575 You don't have to worry about being blind in the future. 859 00:58:42,715 --> 00:58:45,825 We design cities so you can hear an open door 860 00:58:45,975 --> 00:58:49,465 and you can sense a table, because you have built-in sensors. 861 00:58:49,615 --> 00:58:53,265 We work on making artificial methods for visual 862 00:58:53,415 --> 00:58:56,595 for everybody, because anybody can lose their eyesight. 863 00:58:56,815 --> 00:59:00,045 There's no more nickels and dimes for medical research. 864 00:59:00,195 --> 00:59:04,435 This is what the army of the future is all about. 865 00:59:08,625 --> 00:59:11,625 There's usually an alligator sleeping down here. 866 00:59:23,845 --> 00:59:27,045 (King) Are you betting that people will not declare war on each other, so that 867 00:59:27,205 --> 00:59:30,735 you can get at building all of this? -We don't have much choice. 868 00:59:30,885 --> 00:59:33,835 We're going to destroy each other, or we're going to make it. 869 00:59:33,975 --> 00:59:38,095 -This looks like some sort of submerged stadium with something... 870 00:59:38,245 --> 00:59:40,755 - We might build circular cities in the sea 871 00:59:40,895 --> 00:59:43,895 where the water is about 30-35 feet deep. 872 00:59:44,795 --> 00:59:48,205 Most of the apartment houses will open out into the sea. 873 00:59:49,305 --> 00:59:51,835 You can observe marine life and fish swimming by. 874 00:59:51,975 --> 00:59:54,545 There will be no zoos, no seaquariums. 875 00:59:54,685 --> 00:59:57,685 Everything will be observed in natural conditions. 876 00:59:58,265 --> 01:00:01,315 There will be boating, scuba diving, recreation, universities 877 01:00:01,465 --> 01:00:03,945 built in the sea. 878 01:00:05,465 --> 01:00:08,875 - Are these drawings all made by you? - Yes. 879 01:00:25,095 --> 01:00:27,345 (Fresco) This represents a blueprint 880 01:00:27,485 --> 01:00:30,465 of the basic structure of the city in the sea. 881 01:00:30,575 --> 01:00:34,315 There are helicopter landing areas on the upper section. 882 01:00:34,465 --> 01:00:37,735 There are cranes that travel around the entire upper portion 883 01:00:37,885 --> 01:00:42,015 of the structure. The legs are designed to move up and down 884 01:00:42,145 --> 01:00:45,645 to support the structure and rest on the sea bed. 885 01:00:49,065 --> 01:00:51,535 What are these cities in the sea for? 886 01:00:51,685 --> 01:00:54,485 Some of them represent hospitals 887 01:00:54,625 --> 01:00:57,925 that can be towed off the coast of Africa or India. 888 01:00:58,075 --> 01:01:00,845 Instead of sending building materials out there 889 01:01:00,995 --> 01:01:04,585 and building a hospital, then shipping the equipment out there. 890 01:01:04,735 --> 01:01:07,255 It's much easier to build a floating hospital 891 01:01:07,405 --> 01:01:10,615 tow it off the coast of Africa, use it 892 01:01:10,765 --> 01:01:13,205 and by the time the new hospitals are assembled there 893 01:01:13,355 --> 01:01:15,915 you can then move this to another region 894 01:01:16,065 --> 01:01:19,065 float it to another region. 895 01:01:20,435 --> 01:01:23,505 Most of the cities will be constructed in dry-docks 896 01:01:23,655 --> 01:01:26,655 by automated systems. 897 01:01:28,295 --> 01:01:30,825 After it's complete and the flood-locks are open 898 01:01:30,975 --> 01:01:36,325 and it fills with water and there are units that looks like tugboats 899 01:01:36,475 --> 01:01:41,335 that deliver the cities to their site where they will be located. 900 01:01:41,485 --> 01:01:44,965 Some will house as many as a million people; 901 01:01:45,115 --> 01:01:49,625 a series of cities in close proximity, joined together 902 01:01:49,775 --> 01:01:54,195 by transport systems, that is, tunnels either under the water 903 01:01:55,355 --> 01:01:58,355 or above-the-water bridges. 904 01:02:06,865 --> 01:02:09,075 This is an aerial view 905 01:02:09,215 --> 01:02:13,725 of one of the many variations of cities in the sea. 906 01:02:14,065 --> 01:02:17,275 The towers are used for residential occupation. 907 01:02:17,425 --> 01:02:19,605 The docks surrounding the cities 908 01:02:19,755 --> 01:02:24,165 are used for marine exploration and redevelopment. 909 01:02:24,315 --> 01:02:28,285 In other words, to restore the reefs, the damaged reefs. 910 01:02:28,435 --> 01:02:32,935 The unit in the center is used for hydroponic gardens; 911 01:02:33,085 --> 01:02:36,085 growing of food without soil. 912 01:02:42,955 --> 01:02:44,955 Many of the cities in the sea 913 01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:48,865 will have docking facilities for marine vehicles. 914 01:02:49,015 --> 01:02:51,815 That means it'll be like an underwater bus 915 01:02:51,965 --> 01:02:56,045 that would take people around to visit the different areas. 916 01:02:56,195 --> 01:02:58,965 You'll be able get a very good picture of the ocean 917 01:02:59,105 --> 01:03:04,405 and how we harness it and use it and preserve it and protect it 918 01:03:05,105 --> 01:03:08,795 so that future generations might enjoy the oceans, also. 919 01:03:12,265 --> 01:03:16,005 This projects above one of the cities under the sea 920 01:03:16,155 --> 01:03:21,195 with an observation platform and a landing platform on the upper deck. 921 01:03:22,375 --> 01:03:25,355 At the sea level there'll be a floating dock system 922 01:03:25,505 --> 01:03:29,385 that moves with the tide, up and down so boats can dock. 923 01:03:29,535 --> 01:03:33,245 Then you enter an elevator shaft, which goes to an airlock. 924 01:03:33,395 --> 01:03:37,395 It takes you to the bottom of the sea, or the sea bed. 925 01:03:37,655 --> 01:03:42,355 The sea bed is used for observation of reefs and marine life. 926 01:03:42,645 --> 01:03:46,265 Not only do they monitor the reefs, they restore the reefs 927 01:03:46,415 --> 01:03:49,665 and change them, rebuild them or redesign them. 928 01:03:49,815 --> 01:03:54,195 Some day we will be able to control the shape, configuration of reefs 929 01:03:54,455 --> 01:03:57,015 so they can support more marine life. 930 01:03:57,165 --> 01:03:59,645 I think humans can add to nature 931 01:03:59,935 --> 01:04:03,345 and improve it considerably. What will that mean? 932 01:04:03,495 --> 01:04:06,495 It'll mean a higher standard of living for all people. 933 01:04:20,035 --> 01:04:22,665 (Meadows) When he draws these buildings and designs 934 01:04:22,805 --> 01:04:27,035 he thinks about how they go together, how they're manufactured. 935 01:04:27,425 --> 01:04:30,995 Some of the drawings I have seen have gone back about 60 years 936 01:04:31,145 --> 01:04:33,805 and they're just beginning to talk about 937 01:04:33,955 --> 01:04:36,955 some of these things now as being a possibility. 938 01:04:37,245 --> 01:04:40,005 You know, in the past people would say: "You'd never be able 939 01:04:40,145 --> 01:04:42,965 to get to the moon, not in a thousand years!" 940 01:04:43,115 --> 01:04:46,205 And they'd look up the next day and they're going to the moon. 941 01:04:46,355 --> 01:04:48,855 You know, when I first met Jacque 25 years ago and he would talk 942 01:04:48,995 --> 01:04:52,765 to some people about certain inventions 943 01:04:53,005 --> 01:04:56,525 they'd say, "You won't see that... not in a thousand years!" 944 01:04:56,675 --> 01:05:01,675 And, ten years later, they'd come out with it on the cover of Popular Science. 945 01:05:06,505 --> 01:05:09,595 The whole basis of the technology is to maintain 946 01:05:09,745 --> 01:05:13,705 a high standard of living. Technology is not worth anything 947 01:05:13,855 --> 01:05:17,155 unless it improves people's lives. 948 01:05:17,305 --> 01:05:19,975 Today, people are afraid of science and technology 949 01:05:20,125 --> 01:05:22,795 because it's so abusive today in so many ways. 950 01:05:22,945 --> 01:05:25,175 But it's not science and it's not the technology 951 01:05:25,325 --> 01:05:29,335 we should be wary of, it's the abuse and the misuse of science. 952 01:05:29,485 --> 01:05:32,925 You can take a rocket and you can shoot it 953 01:05:33,075 --> 01:05:35,535 into space and explore outer space 954 01:05:35,685 --> 01:05:39,195 or you can take it and use it as a bomb and destroy another country. 955 01:05:39,335 --> 01:05:43,145 It's really the inanimate object 956 01:05:43,295 --> 01:05:46,795 really, is in our hands, and what we do with it. 957 01:05:47,265 --> 01:05:52,265 Science is really the ability to predict the next most probable. 958 01:05:52,515 --> 01:05:54,745 That's what the real meaning of science is: 959 01:05:54,895 --> 01:05:59,115 gaining the ability to predict the next most probable. 960 01:05:59,265 --> 01:06:02,745 When we talk about science, we're talking about a method 961 01:06:02,895 --> 01:06:06,675 of looking at a situation, a method of evaluation 962 01:06:06,825 --> 01:06:09,195 that differs from the opinionated system. 963 01:06:09,345 --> 01:06:12,075 "If you ask me, I'll tell you!" 964 01:06:12,215 --> 01:06:16,345 The scientific method has no special connection to truth. 965 01:06:16,495 --> 01:06:20,215 It really has a better way of looking at things 966 01:06:20,365 --> 01:06:22,365 than the earlier systems 967 01:06:22,485 --> 01:06:26,195 where everything was attributed to gods or demons. 968 01:06:27,195 --> 01:06:30,935 (Gazecki) This is where we get into applying the scientific method to society. 969 01:06:31,085 --> 01:06:34,695 -Yes. This is not in a book yet. 970 01:06:34,845 --> 01:06:36,955 The scientific method applied to society 971 01:06:37,105 --> 01:06:39,425 is something people don't think about much. 972 01:06:39,575 --> 01:06:42,895 But if you want to know about where the answers may lie 973 01:06:43,045 --> 01:06:46,535 it is in the application of the methods of science 974 01:06:46,685 --> 01:06:50,365 with human concern and environmental concern. 975 01:06:50,515 --> 01:06:53,045 The Future by Design refers to 976 01:06:53,195 --> 01:06:56,605 the application of the methods of science. Not scientists 977 01:06:56,755 --> 01:06:59,515 the methods of science to the social system. 978 01:06:59,665 --> 01:07:03,225 Naturally, even the methods of science undergo change. 979 01:07:03,375 --> 01:07:06,825 As they change, so would the future. 980 01:07:06,975 --> 01:07:10,605 If we use the scientific method throughout the world 981 01:07:10,755 --> 01:07:13,685 the probability of war drops to zero. 982 01:07:13,875 --> 01:07:17,195 The probability of human suffering disappears. 983 01:07:17,555 --> 01:07:20,195 Deprivation, poverty, crime... 984 01:07:20,435 --> 01:07:24,795 all those things tend to disappear, because there's no basis for it. 985 01:07:31,675 --> 01:07:34,945 (Meadows) Jacque spent a lot of time...before studying people 986 01:07:35,095 --> 01:07:38,335 he started studying how animals behave 987 01:07:38,485 --> 01:07:42,735 and how to change or predict the behavior of animals 988 01:07:42,865 --> 01:07:46,405 and came to the conclusion that it's really the environment 989 01:07:46,555 --> 01:07:50,805 that changes behavior and enables us to behave the way we do. 990 01:07:50,955 --> 01:07:56,325 We're not born with prejudice and bigotry and anger and greed. 991 01:07:56,645 --> 01:08:00,865 It's really generated and nurtured by the environment that we live in. 992 01:08:01,015 --> 01:08:04,045 That's why we feel that unless you change your environment 993 01:08:04,195 --> 01:08:08,295 and change the experiences, we'll get the same aberrant behavior 994 01:08:08,445 --> 01:08:11,995 within people, unless the environment is changed. 995 01:08:18,195 --> 01:08:20,925 (Fresco) Any culture in the world today 996 01:08:21,075 --> 01:08:23,675 tries to educate people 997 01:08:23,825 --> 01:08:27,365 so they'll serve a function in that particular culture. 998 01:08:27,515 --> 01:08:29,815 In other words, if you're brought up in a Nazi culture 999 01:08:29,965 --> 01:08:33,725 the flag waving and the swastika are the kinds of things they put forth. 1000 01:08:33,875 --> 01:08:36,375 If you're brought up in a primitive tribe 1001 01:08:36,525 --> 01:08:38,655 handling the javelin and the bow and arrow 1002 01:08:38,795 --> 01:08:41,145 will be the kind of thing that you will be exposed to. 1003 01:08:41,285 --> 01:08:43,835 People are conditioned to serve 1004 01:08:43,975 --> 01:08:47,285 the interests of an established culture. 1005 01:08:47,435 --> 01:08:51,765 Who does that to us? The owners of the institutions: 1006 01:08:51,915 --> 01:08:55,095 The establishment. They give us a value system 1007 01:08:55,235 --> 01:08:57,845 that would support existing structures 1008 01:08:58,005 --> 01:09:02,845 whether it be religious, non-religious, industrial, military... 1009 01:09:02,995 --> 01:09:05,975 When children say, you know, "Daddy, what's the greatest country in the world?" 1010 01:09:06,125 --> 01:09:08,475 "Of course our country is the greatest country in the world." 1011 01:09:08,705 --> 01:09:11,675 "Which god is the right god, Daddy?" "Our god. 1012 01:09:11,815 --> 01:09:13,825 All the other gods are false gods." 1013 01:09:13,975 --> 01:09:18,305 Picture this: a Roman family taking its kids to see the Christians 1014 01:09:18,455 --> 01:09:21,085 being fed to the lions. And the kids are watching 1015 01:09:21,235 --> 01:09:24,355 "Dad, can we come next week to see Christians being fed to lions?" 1016 01:09:24,525 --> 01:09:28,025 Are these kids sick? No! Their value system is distorted. 1017 01:09:28,915 --> 01:09:31,895 So, I'm strictly concerned with the environment 1018 01:09:32,095 --> 01:09:34,475 that people are reared in, raised in. 1019 01:09:34,625 --> 01:09:38,895 And if that environment is altered, so will behavior be altered. 1020 01:09:39,285 --> 01:09:43,145 You reorient the environment and that in turn reorients people. 1021 01:09:43,515 --> 01:09:47,475 But if you reorient people without 1022 01:09:47,635 --> 01:09:50,495 touching the environment, it'll slip back. 1023 01:09:50,735 --> 01:09:55,075 So, when you try to think about the future, remember this: 1024 01:09:55,225 --> 01:09:57,915 the process with which you think about things 1025 01:09:58,065 --> 01:10:01,655 is based upon indoctrination, what you're given by your society. 1026 01:10:01,805 --> 01:10:04,595 Your range of thought is limited 1027 01:10:04,735 --> 01:10:07,625 by the dominant values of your society. 1028 01:10:07,825 --> 01:10:12,845 Learning to be flexible in values takes a long time. 1029 01:10:13,375 --> 01:10:16,195 In talking to kids, when I was very young 1030 01:10:16,335 --> 01:10:20,445 I had to be very patient with them if I were to make any progress. 1031 01:10:20,595 --> 01:10:22,855 I talked about the concept of god: 1032 01:10:23,005 --> 01:10:26,215 your concept of god, my concept of god, and his concept of god. 1033 01:10:26,365 --> 01:10:29,595 So different... I wonder what God is really like. 1034 01:10:29,745 --> 01:10:32,545 Or, if there is a god, for that matter. 1035 01:10:32,695 --> 01:10:36,475 And why would god permit war and disease if he's all-loving? 1036 01:10:36,625 --> 01:10:39,245 It didn't make sense to me...too many clashes. 1037 01:10:39,395 --> 01:10:41,815 I questioned that. 1038 01:10:41,965 --> 01:10:44,335 Of course, I felt a little uncomfortable 1039 01:10:44,485 --> 01:10:47,875 during questioning the concept of god. 1040 01:10:48,025 --> 01:10:51,575 But then, reading about the history and evolution 1041 01:10:51,725 --> 01:10:54,195 of gods. There were many different gods: 1042 01:10:54,335 --> 01:10:56,595 the god of war, the god of peace, the god of love... 1043 01:10:56,745 --> 01:10:59,525 Which was more like the people that invented them. 1044 01:10:59,675 --> 01:11:03,925 They behaved, they got angry, they made sacrifices 1045 01:11:04,075 --> 01:11:07,535 they created floods when they didn't like the way things were going. 1046 01:11:07,685 --> 01:11:11,806 And this did not come through as superior intelligence. 1047 01:11:12,155 --> 01:11:15,475 Primitive people, going back in time, when they saw lightning 1048 01:11:15,625 --> 01:11:20,755 they thought that the deity was angry. Why else would it not occur? 1049 01:11:20,905 --> 01:11:24,285 When a hurricane swept the land, they got rid of certain people 1050 01:11:24,435 --> 01:11:27,795 in their tribe as a sacrifice, hoping that the gods 1051 01:11:27,945 --> 01:11:30,045 would not produce a second hurricane. 1052 01:11:30,195 --> 01:11:32,635 However, if it did occur again 1053 01:11:32,785 --> 01:11:34,995 then they sacrificed some of the younger people. 1054 01:11:35,145 --> 01:11:37,535 Rarely would the chief sacrifice himself 1055 01:11:37,685 --> 01:11:41,045 but he's always got a line of people, ready to sacrifice. 1056 01:11:41,195 --> 01:11:44,125 So, you have that problem with human beings. 1057 01:11:44,275 --> 01:11:47,175 Anything that occurs beyond their comprehension 1058 01:11:47,325 --> 01:11:49,515 they have to invent an excuse for. 1059 01:11:49,665 --> 01:11:52,545 They have to create gods and demons 1060 01:11:52,795 --> 01:11:55,345 to account for things, because people come 1061 01:11:55,495 --> 01:11:57,625 to the leadership of that community. 1062 01:11:57,775 --> 01:11:59,955 No matter how primitive the tribe, they say: 1063 01:12:00,105 --> 01:12:03,755 "How come bad wind blow people off island?" 1064 01:12:03,905 --> 01:12:06,725 The guy says "You not behave good! 1065 01:12:06,875 --> 01:12:10,195 You not make not enough contribution to volcano! 1066 01:12:10,365 --> 01:12:14,325 Throw your brother-in-law into volcano, maybe it doesn't erupt then." 1067 01:12:14,475 --> 01:12:16,775 So, if you throw your brother-in-law into the volcano 1068 01:12:16,925 --> 01:12:19,505 and it still erupts, you have to throw your sister-in-law in. 1069 01:12:19,655 --> 01:12:23,005 So you get metaphysics. You get religion. 1070 01:12:23,155 --> 01:12:25,595 You get superstition "Knock wood". 1071 01:12:25,745 --> 01:12:28,155 Or you wear a rabbit's foot. Just remember 1072 01:12:28,305 --> 01:12:32,045 that the rabbit had four of them; didn't do him any good. 1073 01:12:32,285 --> 01:12:35,305 So, on down the line, superstition prevails 1074 01:12:35,455 --> 01:12:38,215 wherever ignorance prevails. 1075 01:12:38,355 --> 01:12:41,375 Myth is a way of saying to the little guy 1076 01:12:41,525 --> 01:12:44,245 working out there in the field when he says 1077 01:12:44,395 --> 01:12:47,925 "What does all this amount to? I never seem to be getting anywhere." 1078 01:12:49,005 --> 01:12:52,755 "When you kick the bucket everything is there for you. 1079 01:12:53,065 --> 01:12:55,455 If you don't get it in this life you'll get it in the next 1080 01:12:55,595 --> 01:12:57,415 if you remain good." 1081 01:12:57,555 --> 01:13:00,725 The amount of superstition that a culture can absorb 1082 01:13:00,875 --> 01:13:05,635 would be directly proportionate to the amount of information people have. 1083 01:13:05,785 --> 01:13:09,195 So, in the future, with adequate supply of information 1084 01:13:09,475 --> 01:13:12,225 more than that which is given today 1085 01:13:12,365 --> 01:13:14,645 considerably more, you don't have 1086 01:13:14,845 --> 01:13:18,765 "knock wood. Today's my lucky day. When your number's up, it's up." 1087 01:13:18,905 --> 01:13:21,705 All that will disappear in the future. 1088 01:13:21,865 --> 01:13:24,855 I look at this as everything he's doing 1089 01:13:25,005 --> 01:13:28,205 as being the utmost in spirituality. 1090 01:13:28,355 --> 01:13:32,675 Instead of looking for a better world later after you die, 1091 01:13:32,815 --> 01:13:36,095 it's really building the types of things that all religious teachings 1092 01:13:36,245 --> 01:13:38,785 talk about here on Earth. 1093 01:13:38,935 --> 01:13:41,105 We don't have to wait until we die for that. 1094 01:13:41,255 --> 01:13:43,415 We can confront our problems today and not wait 1095 01:13:43,565 --> 01:13:47,935 for the Messiah to come with the white robe and change things 1096 01:13:48,075 --> 01:13:50,595 or not wait until we all go to heaven at a certain time 1097 01:13:50,745 --> 01:13:53,165 or those believers that go to heaven at a certain time. 1098 01:13:53,315 --> 01:13:55,395 We can deal with the problems today. 1099 01:13:55,545 --> 01:13:58,295 For instance, in a religion 1100 01:13:59,445 --> 01:14:01,735 they put things on the will of god. 1101 01:14:01,875 --> 01:14:05,395 If there's an accident it's the will of god. 1102 01:14:05,545 --> 01:14:09,475 And it stops you from thinking. It stops you from being innovative. 1103 01:14:09,625 --> 01:14:12,995 It stops you from thinking about "Well, how do we redesign 1104 01:14:13,145 --> 01:14:16,955 the transportation system so we don't have those problems anymore?" 1105 01:14:17,095 --> 01:14:19,605 So, he's worked with priests, and he's worked with religious people 1106 01:14:19,745 --> 01:14:23,385 and kind of expanded their horizons a bit so they can be more creative. 1107 01:14:23,525 --> 01:14:27,885 They look at the environment that shapes people's behavior 1108 01:14:28,025 --> 01:14:30,445 and they don't call them "good" or "bad" anymore, they think about 1109 01:14:30,585 --> 01:14:33,005 shaping the environment 1110 01:14:33,155 --> 01:14:35,815 to get more constructive behavior. 1111 01:14:38,495 --> 01:14:41,355 (Fresco) If you were to ask me to redesign the world 1112 01:14:41,505 --> 01:14:44,665 and the way people live. First thing I would have to do 1113 01:14:44,815 --> 01:14:47,915 is to conduct a survey to find what we have 1114 01:14:48,065 --> 01:14:50,175 how much water we have 1115 01:14:50,325 --> 01:14:52,625 how much people we have, how much arable land area. 1116 01:14:52,765 --> 01:14:57,335 After I know that, then I can base the parameters of design 1117 01:14:57,475 --> 01:14:59,235 on what we have. 1118 01:14:59,435 --> 01:15:03,925 What you really need is an understanding of the Earth's resources 1119 01:15:04,085 --> 01:15:08,855 by agronomists, geologists, geophysicists; people who study the Earth. 1120 01:15:09,005 --> 01:15:12,195 They don't give you their opinion. They say 1121 01:15:12,345 --> 01:15:14,855 "There's more life in the Antarctic." That's not an opinion. 1122 01:15:15,005 --> 01:15:18,925 That's a finding. So, in the future, no more opinions. 1123 01:15:19,075 --> 01:15:21,235 "Do you have information in this area?" "No, I don't." 1124 01:15:21,385 --> 01:15:23,215 "Good! Here's where you might get it." 1125 01:15:23,365 --> 01:15:26,755 Or "Here's how you might go about finding out." 1126 01:15:26,925 --> 01:15:30,274 So I'm saying, "All people need clean air 1127 01:15:30,415 --> 01:15:32,685 clean water, arable land 1128 01:15:32,825 --> 01:15:35,315 and a good relationship of language." 1129 01:15:35,475 --> 01:15:39,395 So, I'm not superimposing Fresco's concepts. 1130 01:15:39,765 --> 01:15:43,195 I'm using the Earth as the measure. 1131 01:15:43,485 --> 01:15:46,445 In other words, we have to live in accordance 1132 01:15:46,595 --> 01:15:48,945 with the carrying capacity of the Earth. 1133 01:15:49,095 --> 01:15:52,425 Does that make sense? - Yes, sir, it does. I keep wondering 1134 01:15:52,575 --> 01:15:56,445 about how drastic a social change this is 1135 01:15:56,595 --> 01:16:00,345 and how totally different our world would be 1136 01:16:00,495 --> 01:16:02,775 and, yeah, how do you get - from here to there? 1137 01:16:02,915 --> 01:16:05,585 - people to accept it, yeah. - Okay, here's how we do it. 1138 01:16:05,725 --> 01:16:08,385 Eventually, all decision-making 1139 01:16:08,535 --> 01:16:12,365 will be transferred to machines. First, people say 1140 01:16:12,515 --> 01:16:16,045 "Well, now, I don't know that I'd like machines making decisions." 1141 01:16:16,195 --> 01:16:19,145 First of all, that's what a scale does. If you go to a butcher shop 1142 01:16:19,305 --> 01:16:21,605 the butcher says "The chicken weighs six pounds." 1143 01:16:21,745 --> 01:16:25,325 Since you're buying it, you say: "that doesn't look like six pounds to me!" 1144 01:16:25,475 --> 01:16:28,565 So you grab it and say "I think it weighs about four" because you're tense 1145 01:16:28,715 --> 01:16:31,325 to think to weigh less. Then the scale came in 1146 01:16:31,475 --> 01:16:34,225 and we assigned decision making to the scale. 1147 01:16:34,365 --> 01:16:36,765 Is that right? - Yes, sir. - So, so do pilots. 1148 01:16:36,915 --> 01:16:39,755 When they fly, "I think I'm a mile and a half high." 1149 01:16:39,905 --> 01:16:41,835 They look at an instrument, and it tells them they're 1150 01:16:41,985 --> 01:16:45,195 4,203 feet off the ground. 1151 01:16:45,345 --> 01:16:49,305 So, that is decision made by machine 1152 01:16:49,455 --> 01:16:53,455 because the decision-making by the machine is far more accurate. 1153 01:16:53,715 --> 01:16:55,925 Now, the question normal people ask is 1154 01:16:56,085 --> 01:16:59,005 "Yes, but can machine be smarter than the designer?" 1155 01:16:59,155 --> 01:17:01,875 Well, I know a little guy that designed a machine 1156 01:17:02,015 --> 01:17:05,665 to pick up a freight train and empty it. Now, he can't do that. 1157 01:17:05,815 --> 01:17:08,475 Machines are always faster than the designer. 1158 01:17:08,625 --> 01:17:11,295 You ever see a coke bottle machine move on the line? 1159 01:17:11,445 --> 01:17:14,255 The designer, he can't move those bottles. 1160 01:17:14,405 --> 01:17:17,825 What is happening in our societies? We are automating 1161 01:17:17,975 --> 01:17:21,605 more and more decision-making and assigning it to machines. 1162 01:17:21,755 --> 01:17:25,325 Picture a department of agriculture as a setup of computers 1163 01:17:25,475 --> 01:17:29,095 with electrical wiring into the soil. 1164 01:17:29,245 --> 01:17:33,095 So, if the water table drops, that pumps water out there. 1165 01:17:33,245 --> 01:17:36,315 If the nutrients change it pumps nutrients. You don't need a guy 1166 01:17:36,465 --> 01:17:41,085 out there saying "Mr. President, we have a drought out here!" 1167 01:17:41,225 --> 01:17:43,465 And the President says "How bad is it?" 1168 01:17:43,615 --> 01:17:46,385 "Well, there are 5,000 homeless, and in the next three days 1169 01:17:46,525 --> 01:17:49,495 there'll be 15,000 homeless." 1170 01:17:49,665 --> 01:17:53,205 So, the President says, "Hmm." So he flies over 1171 01:17:53,465 --> 01:17:57,305 and he says "Yes, you do have a drought." So what? 1172 01:17:57,525 --> 01:18:00,385 When you connect up the country, all the computers 1173 01:18:00,535 --> 01:18:03,195 to production, distribution, agriculture 1174 01:18:03,345 --> 01:18:05,575 you have a nervous system 1175 01:18:05,725 --> 01:18:08,605 which maintains dynamic equilibrium 1176 01:18:08,755 --> 01:18:13,205 in production and distribution of goods and services, without money. 1177 01:18:13,815 --> 01:18:16,155 The government is right above your head there 1178 01:18:16,305 --> 01:18:18,905 if you can turn around to see it. It looks like the globe. 1179 01:18:19,045 --> 01:18:23,525 That globe there makes all the decisions, because it's connected! 1180 01:18:23,685 --> 01:18:27,875 We have satellites around the Earth that project a hologram 1181 01:18:28,255 --> 01:18:30,165 a virtual image of the Earth. 1182 01:18:30,305 --> 01:18:33,325 So you're looking at the real Earth, in real time. 1183 01:18:33,485 --> 01:18:36,765 So you walk over to the image screens and you talk. You say 1184 01:18:36,915 --> 01:18:39,785 "How many planes are in the air at this instant?" 1185 01:18:39,935 --> 01:18:45,435 The computer will hit a laser spot all over the world and tell you: "7320". 1186 01:18:45,585 --> 01:18:48,125 Every plane in the air, every hurricane 1187 01:18:48,275 --> 01:18:51,285 all the conditions all over the Earth... plant diseases... 1188 01:18:51,435 --> 01:18:53,375 No human can do that. 1189 01:18:53,525 --> 01:18:56,635 So we don't need people in government. We need electronics 1190 01:18:56,785 --> 01:19:00,095 in the field, production, distribution, weather... 1191 01:19:00,245 --> 01:19:03,655 So we can look, come at home and find out anything we want to know 1192 01:19:03,815 --> 01:19:08,198 without opinions based on folk-say, or folksy ways. 1193 01:19:09,675 --> 01:19:12,965 (Gazecki) The Future by Design is a self-regulated society 1194 01:19:13,115 --> 01:19:16,695 governed by a cybernated system of supply and demand. 1195 01:19:17,385 --> 01:19:19,675 Political systems are replaced by tabulating 1196 01:19:19,825 --> 01:19:22,825 the input of information from the general population 1197 01:19:22,975 --> 01:19:25,975 and delivering goods and services accordingly. 1198 01:19:26,415 --> 01:19:28,465 The economic system is similarly based 1199 01:19:28,615 --> 01:19:31,385 upon the use of all available resources 1200 01:19:31,535 --> 01:19:34,435 in meeting the needs of the entire culture. 1201 01:19:34,935 --> 01:19:37,405 (Meadows) When there's a depression or a dip in the economy 1202 01:19:37,555 --> 01:19:40,165 and a lot of people don't have money to buy things 1203 01:19:40,315 --> 01:19:44,005 there are still goods out there. There's still the ability to produce them. 1204 01:19:44,155 --> 01:19:46,655 There's still the resources, there's the farms 1205 01:19:46,805 --> 01:19:48,845 and people want to work and make things 1206 01:19:48,995 --> 01:19:51,715 but they don't have the money, they can't buy things. 1207 01:19:51,865 --> 01:19:54,745 So there's something terribly wrong out there, we have 1208 01:19:54,895 --> 01:19:58,905 a great deal of the Earth's population starving and suffering 1209 01:19:59,045 --> 01:20:02,725 and the resources are there. Our ability to produce is there. 1210 01:20:02,875 --> 01:20:06,555 Our ingenuity is there. Yet, some people have a lot 1211 01:20:06,705 --> 01:20:08,845 and others don't have anything. 1212 01:20:09,145 --> 01:20:12,625 Today, that's really shameful with our technology. 1213 01:20:12,775 --> 01:20:16,435 It's really very, very abusive and absurd 1214 01:20:16,585 --> 01:20:19,305 because we have all the technology today 1215 01:20:19,455 --> 01:20:22,875 to produce abundance all over the world for everyone. 1216 01:20:23,525 --> 01:20:27,715 People always ask, "How much will it cost to put up these new cities?" 1217 01:20:27,865 --> 01:20:30,035 Do we have the resources to do it? 1218 01:20:30,175 --> 01:20:32,195 That's the question, not, "How much does it cost?" 1219 01:20:32,335 --> 01:20:35,865 That's the old question during a monetary system. 1220 01:20:36,015 --> 01:20:39,405 Money is an invention of convenience 1221 01:20:39,555 --> 01:20:42,085 for purchasing goods and services 1222 01:20:42,235 --> 01:20:44,985 in a scarcity environment. If there's a scarcity 1223 01:20:45,135 --> 01:20:49,575 say, of water, it is prized, and its price is high. 1224 01:20:49,725 --> 01:20:53,005 If we find an abundant suddenly the earth opens up 1225 01:20:53,155 --> 01:20:57,285 and an abundant supply of fresh water fills every ravine 1226 01:20:57,435 --> 01:20:59,355 then nobody cares. 1227 01:20:59,495 --> 01:21:02,825 There's only a policeman in front of something 1228 01:21:02,975 --> 01:21:05,015 that people have need for 1229 01:21:05,175 --> 01:21:08,715 and don't have access to, so you put a guard there. 1230 01:21:08,865 --> 01:21:11,915 But if lemon trees or orange trees and apple trees 1231 01:21:12,065 --> 01:21:15,225 grew all over the place, you couldn't sell it. 1232 01:21:15,375 --> 01:21:20,555 Imagine, if you will, if you can, an island of 10,000 people 1233 01:21:21,535 --> 01:21:24,735 with $10 billion on the island available. 1234 01:21:24,885 --> 01:21:28,745 No resources, no arable land, no water 1235 01:21:28,895 --> 01:21:32,045 no fish, you have nothing. 1236 01:21:32,195 --> 01:21:35,045 So what is the real value in the future? 1237 01:21:35,185 --> 01:21:37,285 Resources. 1238 01:21:37,455 --> 01:21:42,715 Now, in a non-monetary based society, a resource-based society 1239 01:21:42,865 --> 01:21:46,545 people have access to anything that they need 1240 01:21:46,695 --> 01:21:48,815 somewhat like the public library. 1241 01:21:48,965 --> 01:21:53,485 They can go down and access a camera, or a bicycle, or a wristwatch. 1242 01:21:53,635 --> 01:21:58,585 Anything that they need is available, without a price tag. 1243 01:21:58,735 --> 01:22:02,675 That would mean we must achieve a level of production 1244 01:22:02,825 --> 01:22:07,095 that's so high that scarcity no longer exists. 1245 01:22:07,245 --> 01:22:09,605 Many people wonder what would drive people 1246 01:22:09,755 --> 01:22:12,435 if they have access to all their needs. 1247 01:22:12,585 --> 01:22:16,165 What would happen to incentive? What will motivate people? 1248 01:22:16,315 --> 01:22:19,455 Or, something gained, what's the gain? 1249 01:22:19,605 --> 01:22:22,545 Although the gain is that materials are available 1250 01:22:22,695 --> 01:22:27,295 what will motivate them on to do better than what they have? 1251 01:22:27,615 --> 01:22:31,025 Need. We will always lack. 1252 01:22:31,485 --> 01:22:34,165 And the fact that we will always lack meaning 1253 01:22:34,315 --> 01:22:36,275 that we cannot achieve perfection 1254 01:22:36,435 --> 01:22:40,315 we cannot achieve truly dynamic equilibrium 1255 01:22:40,465 --> 01:22:44,195 we will always be in some form of disequilibrium. 1256 01:22:44,345 --> 01:22:48,515 With the elimination of scarcity the essential incentives change 1257 01:22:48,665 --> 01:22:51,385 toward problem solving, in general. 1258 01:22:52,025 --> 01:22:57,045 When nations or groups of people do not have access to resources 1259 01:22:57,195 --> 01:23:00,015 their behavior is difficult to manage. 1260 01:23:00,165 --> 01:23:04,725 It becomes aberrant, they lose their mental equilibrium 1261 01:23:04,875 --> 01:23:07,975 they cannot arrive at appropriate conclusions. 1262 01:23:08,115 --> 01:23:10,795 Once people are free, mentally 1263 01:23:10,945 --> 01:23:14,885 of debt, obligation, servitude 1264 01:23:15,035 --> 01:23:17,725 then they can seek new horizons 1265 01:23:17,875 --> 01:23:21,435 that they've never even dreamt possible before. 1266 01:23:25,745 --> 01:23:29,415 (Gazecki) The core mechanism of democratic process in the Future by Design 1267 01:23:29,565 --> 01:23:32,625 is the use of public exhibition halls. 1268 01:23:32,995 --> 01:23:36,515 With the exhibition hall, everyone has the opportunity to participate 1269 01:23:36,665 --> 01:23:40,965 in establishing the priorities with which the society is governed. 1270 01:23:43,045 --> 01:23:47,485 -So, just like a world fair, to show you what's new, what is available 1271 01:23:47,635 --> 01:23:50,815 you look around and say, "I'd like one of those" 1272 01:23:50,965 --> 01:23:54,925 or, "I can use that sort of thing in my kitchen." Whatever it is. 1273 01:23:55,075 --> 01:23:58,375 And then they always invite comment, or something new comes up 1274 01:23:58,525 --> 01:24:01,055 "What do you think about it? Do you feel it's efficient? 1275 01:24:01,205 --> 01:24:05,025 Do you feel there's shortcomings? Enter into your computer 1276 01:24:05,175 --> 01:24:10,615 your point of view regarding this, so you have a built-in democracy. 1277 01:24:10,765 --> 01:24:15,095 You have a participatory culture where all people participate 1278 01:24:15,245 --> 01:24:18,045 and that is in a constant process, so that people 1279 01:24:18,205 --> 01:24:21,375 will know up to the minute what is coming out 1280 01:24:21,525 --> 01:24:25,205 what exists, what is available, what is not available. 1281 01:24:25,345 --> 01:24:29,515 In other words, there'll be many bulletins and many publications 1282 01:24:29,665 --> 01:24:32,205 and visualizations of what is needed. 1283 01:24:32,355 --> 01:24:35,075 So, all the world's people will be informed constantly 1284 01:24:35,225 --> 01:24:37,925 of what we don't know, what is needed badly 1285 01:24:38,075 --> 01:24:41,265 and asking for suggestions and papers 1286 01:24:41,415 --> 01:24:44,165 and ideas from everybody. 1287 01:24:46,935 --> 01:24:49,815 I just want to say this to you, that all the marvels 1288 01:24:49,965 --> 01:24:53,385 and wonders of technology can amount to nothing 1289 01:24:53,535 --> 01:24:57,235 unless it elevates humans to their highest potential. 1290 01:24:57,385 --> 01:25:01,195 This is the aim of the Future by Design. 1291 01:25:18,285 --> 01:25:23,355 (Meadows) Jacque continues to invent everyday, to invent, to write, to work. 1292 01:25:23,885 --> 01:25:28,395 He has a zest for life that keeps him going and keeps him working. 1293 01:25:28,545 --> 01:25:31,495 And he's interested in things. He's interested in 1294 01:25:31,645 --> 01:25:34,245 what happens out there and how this will play out 1295 01:25:34,395 --> 01:25:37,575 and how it'll turn out, while very much wanting 1296 01:25:37,725 --> 01:25:42,385 to introduce this direction to the world. So that's his prime focus. 1297 01:25:42,545 --> 01:25:46,065 And he does that in every way he can by actually showing 1298 01:25:46,215 --> 01:25:48,805 it's not enough to just tell what the future will be like, but just 1299 01:25:48,955 --> 01:25:51,065 to show what people are missing. 1300 01:25:51,215 --> 01:25:53,865 He keeps coming up with new ideas, new inventions 1301 01:25:54,005 --> 01:25:56,695 new designs, improves what he has 1302 01:25:56,845 --> 01:26:00,575 represents them better, makes more models, makes more videos. 1303 01:26:00,725 --> 01:26:04,325 He's relentless at trying to get these ideas out. 1304 01:26:04,475 --> 01:26:09,555 I think he fears where society is now. It's not acceptable to him. 1305 01:26:09,705 --> 01:26:14,455 But, instead of just complaining, he wants to propose an alternative. 1306 01:26:14,605 --> 01:26:17,255 When people say "Are you trying to build a perfect society?" 1307 01:26:17,405 --> 01:26:21,215 I have no notions of a perfect society. I don't know what that means. 1308 01:26:21,365 --> 01:26:24,245 I know we can do much better than what we've got. 1309 01:26:24,395 --> 01:26:25,795 I'm no Utopian. 1310 01:26:25,945 --> 01:26:27,995 I'm not a humanist who would like to see 1311 01:26:28,135 --> 01:26:30,625 everybody living in warmth and harmony. 1312 01:26:30,775 --> 01:26:33,435 I know that, if we don't live that way, we'll kill each other 1313 01:26:33,575 --> 01:26:37,835 and destroy the Earth. We're a crude form of life right now 1314 01:26:38,155 --> 01:26:41,415 in the evolutionary stages. Our civilization... 1315 01:26:41,565 --> 01:26:44,115 really we're not even civilized yet. 1316 01:26:44,265 --> 01:26:46,905 So, after the world joins together 1317 01:26:47,055 --> 01:26:51,305 and we are through with military systems, prisons, torture 1318 01:26:51,455 --> 01:26:55,385 hunger, poverty, deprivation. When that is gone 1319 01:26:55,535 --> 01:26:58,735 that'll be the beginning of the civilized world. 1320 01:26:58,885 --> 01:27:01,045 We are not there yet.